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re: Candidate Ron DeSantis Says MAGA Supporters are “listless vessels”.

Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:02 pm to
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:02 pm to
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but he has not shown the propensity to change is mind in the general direction on these policies and he has a track record to back that up.


correct.

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Now, as a Representative he does have a track record on trade. A policy direction opposite of Trump and that was on his vote to give Obama fast track authority on TPP. Trump killed TPP.


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:05 pm to
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Will he call us deplorable soon?


The crocodile tears are delicious
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:07 pm to
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Economics. The implementation of MAGAnomics that puts incentives behind Made In America. Baseline tariffs on all imports. The removal of the 70-year-old one-way Marshal plan for tariffs on USA products into the EU. Reciprocal tariffs against all nations who participate in bilateral Free Trade Agreements, and a return to America first manufacturing independence.


Terrible policy.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33410 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:09 pm to
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Trump supporters as “listless vessels” devoid of principle, who simply “follow whatever comes down the pike from Truth Social every morning.”

Ron just wants to go home now.

After the Iowa state fair he suddenly realizes he was lied to. The GOPe isnt going to be able to take down Trump, and Ron has thrown his future away by listening to them

What I cant grasp is why he didnt understand that from the beginning? He was very popular for standing up to the noise, but then caved, so he could take on the guy that started the whole movement to fight back against the noise. Why did Ron think Trump would become less popular, for doing the exact same thing that made DeSantis popular in the first place?

Its mind-boggling
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:09 pm to
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Now, as a Representative he does have a track record on trade. A policy direction opposite of Trump and that was on his vote to give Obama fast track authority on TPP. Trump killed TPP.


You mean the TPP agreement that Trump tried to get back into after initially scrapping it?
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:09 pm to
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Will he call us deplorable soon?



No. "Listless vessel" fits you perfectly.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:10 pm to
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Terrible policy.


That's fine.

We can have debates over policies.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:11 pm to
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He was very popular for standing up to the noise, but then caved


This only happened in the fevered imagination of the listless vessels.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:11 pm to
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Policies. It's in the OP. Borders. Trade. War.


Your average Patriot literally cannot describe these policies but only know how to use the buzz words which literally makes them a listless vessel also known as an NPC
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:11 pm to
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The crocodile tears are delicious


Your boy is down 30, and this is your retort? Some of y’all are as brainwashed as the Trump crew.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:11 pm to
He should have said cult members
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:12 pm to
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Ron has thrown his future away by listening to them


If he was rejected by Patriots in 2024 he would be rejected by Patriots in any other year, so this comment makes no sense
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:12 pm to
That’s awesome. Ron may have more juice than I initially thought.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:13 pm to
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Will he call us deplorable soon?


The crocodile tears are delicious


They won't sell many shirts with "listless vessel" printed on them by a cheap Chinese sweat shop. They want something they can rally around.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:14 pm to
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Your average Patriot literally cannot describe these policies but only know how to use the buzz words which literally makes them a listless vessel also known as an NPC




In your estimation what percentage of each political faction are listless?

Democrats: 60%?
MAGA: 20%?
RINOs: 60%?
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:14 pm to
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Terrible policy.


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looks like we have another globalist chinese trinket clown like IB A CHINAMAN

Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:15 pm to
All of you will get in line when the time comes.

And as you said, you’re just one voter in Louisiana.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:16 pm to
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Ron just wants to go home now.



yup

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After the Iowa state fair he suddenly realizes he was lied to. The GOPe isnt going to be able to take down Trump, and Ron has thrown his future away by listening to them

What I cant grasp is why he didnt understand that from the beginning? He was very popular for standing up to the noise, but then caved, so he could take on the guy that started the whole movement to fight back against the noise. Why did Ron think Trump would become less popular, for doing the exact same thing that made DeSantis popular in the first place?



BINGO.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:16 pm to
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And as you said, you’re just one voter in Louisiana.



And you are just one voter in NC, a beautiful part of NC.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:16 pm to
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That’s awesome. Ron may have more juice than I initially thought.



He's actually been pretty decent at throwing bombs in the past. While being able to back them up beyond shouting shite like fake news. He's been oddly muted so far with this campaign which tells me he is getting bad advice.

He's said he won't get into the personal mudslinging which is fine. Toss grenades at Trump from the policy angle and Trump won't be able to compete with him as all he knows is slinging shite.
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