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re: Cancelling student loan debt seems like an incredibly unfair policy (re: warren)
Posted on 6/17/19 at 4:08 pm to roadGator
Posted on 6/17/19 at 4:08 pm to roadGator
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What? You don't believe you are stealing from taxpayers? You are.
And if you will steal you will lie.
Posting on TD during lunch, while I take a shite, or during an hour long car trip to a distant county != stealing
You sound kinda jealous.
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 4:08 pm to bmy
You lie. And steal. Sad.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 4:18 pm to LSUFanHouston
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"Forced"... no, you are right.
But a lot of people have failed these kids, including:
1) Teachers and guidance counselors for pushing the canard that everyone HAS to go to college, and the "fancier" the college, the better
2) Parents, for not telling their kids "no" or at the very least, educating these kids about the lifelong impacts of their decisions
3) College administrators, who are all too willing to take anyone they can, just so they can fill a seat
4) All of the above, for not teaching kids enough financial literacy so they can understand how these loans work
5) Government, who by providing such easy loans, have caused prices to spiral out of control
All of that is true.
But tell my why I, after spending years paying off my student loans, now have pay for others who want an easy out and not do the responsible, though difficult thing?
Because forgiving student loans will NEVER HAPPEN. all the talk is about transferring those loans to middle class tax payers.
Of course the left tends to leave that important fact out of the discussion.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 5:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Cancelling student loan debt seems like an incredibly unfair policy (re: warren) It’s a slap in the face to people who just finished off paying their loans off, or are halfway or so 100% i have way overpaid on my loans and am basically being robbed of about $30k by this policy. i've posted about this at length if you talk about this with a leftist, they will call you greedy or say you should be thankful you are that far ahead of others. it's infuriating b/c i haven't been making baller money and i sacrificed to not only pay it off early, but to have a reasonable debt in the first place (and i'm the selfish one)
I went to LSU before TOPS. I had to work to pay for it, taking 7 years for an under graduate degree.
Then, within a couple of years after I graduated, the state comes out and says they're paying tuition for any HS student who can find their a-hole with their thumb.
How is that fair to me and all the other students who actually had to pay tuition? When do I get my retro-active TOPS and have all my tuition payments refunded to me? Never. And I don't have a problem with that. "But it's not FAIR!!1!" Life isn't fair. I pay what I think something's worth, and go pn about my business, never looking back.
That said, I knew quite a few, mostly males, who were majoring in Engineering and Pre-Med. They knew those were the high-paying jobs, and they wanted the money. What they didn't realize was that they didn't have the aptitude, so they dropped out. They still had to repay loans on degrees that were supposedly marketable. Similarly, I knew a few people, male and female, who studied law. A couple made it, one finished and realized that practicing law suck arse, and so she went into teaching. She still had to re-pay the loan for the marketable degree. A couple others graduated with law degrees, somewhere in the middle of their class, and couldn't get decent paying jobs in their field. They still had to re-pay the loans for the marketable degrees.
My BIL majored in Fine Art. He's raised a family of four, sending both kids to private school. He took out no loans, however. My ex-wife graduated in English. She got a job at a business as basically a clerk. Her language skills came in handy for COBOL programming. She moved on from that job, but is back at programming COBOL, because there is suddenly a demand for it as no one seems to know these ancient languages that a lot of businesses still depend on. I know a general studies graduate that teaches an engineering lab at LSU. I know several liberal arts majors that have done just fine. Some have paid off their loans, some never had any, others still have some to pay.
The point: No diploma has intrinsic value. It's the GRADUATE that has the value. It doesn't matter what your degree is in, it matters what you do with your life after you graduate. Just because you got a degree in Philosophy doesn't mean you have to get a job as a philosopher, just as if you get a law degree, you don't have to practice law.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 5:11 pm to Centinel
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Also watch useless degree programs like gender studies go away.
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You're nothing but a misogynist bigot.
How do you know I am not instead a misanthrope trapped in a non-binary fluid gender?
Posted on 6/17/19 at 5:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
the dems are idiots for pushing that agenda. If they would stick to moderate ideals they would win the election but their liberal disease is handing the election to lyin donald. dont know who is more evil....dumb trump or useless warren or bernie or aoc.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 5:17 pm to Loserman
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How do you know I am not instead a misanthrope trapped in a non-binary fluid gender?
That would make you a double-plus ungood misogynist bigot.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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so you believe in a policy that punishes people who sacrificed to benefit those who refuse to do so? this is your policy position?
I'm not saying it's my position. I'm saying it WILL happen.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:58 pm to boogiewoogie1978
quote:Not my position either, but it would make for a nice consolation prize if America fricks up and elects someone other than Trump next year
I'm not saying it's my position. I'm saying it WILL happen.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:58 pm to SSpaniel
quote:
Why? Why SHOULD it happen?
I'm not saying it should. I'm saying it WILL.
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Give me one compelling reason that student loans should be written off.
A large portion of voters want it. Isn't that how voting works. Giving people want they want?
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:18 pm to boogiewoogie1978
A bet a large number of voters would love it if the govt sent them a check for $30k - why hasn't that happened?
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:25 pm to BulldogXero
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Did people who really went to college really choose to though?
yes
and they also chose where they went
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:27 pm to tigeraddict
Wife and I made sure our son graduated debt-free, had to sacrifice some things to make it happen. It irked us when he hooked up with a girl that has a worthless masters and about $50K in debt.
Although having her debt forgiven would probably help our son, I absolutely am against any government forgiveness of those debts.
Although having her debt forgiven would probably help our son, I absolutely am against any government forgiveness of those debts.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:29 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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How is that fair to me and all the other students who actually had to pay tuition?
i'm not a TOPS fan and wasn't when i was in high school, prior to going to LSU
this also is not really comparable to forgiving loans when some people paid them back early/quickly (b/c there is a real loss there after the fact and that simply doesn't exist in the "TOPS" scenario)
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:31 pm to Sid E Walker
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It irked us
Why? Some of you act like you HAVE to pay $1000 a month no matter what.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:34 pm to cable
quote:Cmon man. Cancelling student loan debt is reparations for capitalist greed and income inequality
A bet a large number of voters would love it if the govt sent them a check for $30k - why hasn't that happened?
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:39 pm to NIH
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Why? Some of you act like you HAVE to pay $1000 a month no matter what.
At the end of the day, our son gets saddled with her student loan. Not us.
Your post is confusing.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:55 pm to Sid E Walker
It's her debt. I wouldn't expect my spouse to pay my student loan debt.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
These threads are like magnets for baws with no college degree who grew up in the south and are just t-shirt fans of SEC teams.
3/4 of the SEC schools are glorified high schools, so I guess it makes sense they’re arguing it’s a waste of money though.
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Educated Idiots - 0
3/4 of the SEC schools are glorified high schools, so I guess it makes sense they’re arguing it’s a waste of money though.
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Educated Idiots - 0
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:06 pm to Manzielathon
These same people freaking out about $30-50k in student loan debt being a bad investment are probably buying new cars and boats. Muh worthless degrees!
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