re: Canadian ‘American Pie’ actress Jasmine Mooney detained by ICE

quote:

---

Notified how?

And even still….she was actively trying to get her shite in order. Some of you are acting like she hopped the fence trying to stay here illegally forever.

---

Certified mail. If she moved without getting her mailed forwarded or without letting immigration know, that's on her. Why are you making excuses for somebody who broke the law? About 10 years ago I got a letter in the mail after receiving a ticket for my 5 year old son taking his seatbelt off while sitting in his booster seat. The letter stated if I didn't do x,y and z that my drivers license would be revoked. I did x,y, and z and went about my life. Why should a non citizen not have to take care of their business if they want to be in this country?

quote:

---

This dumb bitch went to THE MEXICAN BORDER to try to renew her visa

---

You're laughing at this but that is quite literally how she got the work visa in 2009 under the guidance of a lawyer.

quote:

---

How do you know it was unknowingly? Notifications are sent out. I'm not saying she for sure knew but if she didn't it's likely her fault she didn't know because she moved and didn't inform immigration. My point is that notifications go out and she likely did know and put it off. The US doesn't revoke visas and keep it a secret.

---

and my point was that she was actively trying to get her papers in order. I don't know her knowledge of the situation anymore than you do.

I am in total agreement that she needed to get her papers in order. And guess what.....that's exactly what she was trying to do. This wasn't some border-hopper trying to live off welfare. If she was.....I'd be right with you in saying get her TF out. But there's nothing pointing to anything other than her being a productive member of society(not leeching welfare dollars).

They should have worked with her to get her visa back in order but given her a warning that the next time this happens, she will be deported.

quote:

---

This is a legit story on the downside of this over-aggressive policy. Instead of melting, MAGA should tell ICE to do better or risk creating a black eye for the policy.

---

Now show us all an example of you saying this towards the DC judges that jailed J6er Grandmas that were invited into the Capitol?

quote:

---

i don't think anybody IS saying that they mean the same thing, but it's obvious that she tried to move about, stay, or enter a country where her papers weren't in order.

---

Sure. But it would be different if she was picked up by authorities and it was found then. She was actively trying to rectify the problem.

quote:

---

i am 100% sure that innocent people are getting hit of the crossfires of a ramped up ICE/DHS along with DOGE going after Medicare, SS, etc. I am not claiming to be OK with that.

---

Same. That’s my issue. I don’t GAF about her as a person. But we can still achieve the goals of what we’re trying to do while still having some common sense.

Follow the fricking law or change it. It’s just that simple.

I have read through as much as I can on this case and still don't understand why she was imprisoned rather than just refused entry into the US.

These are the facts as I understand them:

1. She had a special (available only to Canadians and Mexicans?) 3-year work Visa to be in the United States. She had worked in California based on that Visa.

2. After going home to Canada, she discovered that that Visa had been revoked (dunno why) when she tried to renter the US (in November?).

3. She went to the Port of Entry for the US at the Canadian border in Vancouver to apply for a new work Visa. For unknown reasons, that was denied.


4. Then she did the only thing that I can tell was ill-advised (no proof that it was illegal). She "port of entry shopped." She tried to enter the US from Mexico using the same application for a new work visa that had been rejected in Vancouver.

Am I missing something other than hatred of foreigners? If she committed a crime, charge her with it. She didn't commit a crime and wasn't in the US illegally. She entered the American office from the Mexican side. She was APPLYING to enter the US.

Why detain her for over a week in crappy conditions at taxpayer expense? Was this to enrich a private detention center?

She wasn't in the US when she found out her work visa was revoked. She was detained AT THE BORDER when she was applying for re-entry based on a new application.

Why wasn't she simply denied entry at the Mexican border?

Pretty sure she was already in the US and went to the Mexican border(she was in LA) to get her visa in order. Can't watch your video at the moment but I got that from a different article.

quote:

---

Am I missing something other than hatred of foreigners? If she committed a crime, charge her with it. She didn't commit a crime and wasn't in the US illegally. She entered the American office from the Mexican side. She was APPLYING to enter the US.

Why detain her for over a week in crappy conditions at taxpayer expense? Was this to enrich a private detention center?

---

yeah that's my biggest problem. People here are treating her the same as illegals who come here to enter the welfare system. For a forum full of people to keep saying "we want people here legally".....they don't seem to want her here legally.

quote:

---

She wasn't in the US when she found out her work visa was revoked. She was detained AT THE BORDER when she was applying for re-entry based on a new application.

Why wasn't she simply denied entry at the Mexican border?

---

Just read another article that clarified and yeah.....it doesn't sound like she was in the US at all. She found out it was revoked while in Canada and tried to apply at a port of entry. She didn't try to sneak in and got caught.....no reason whatsoever to detain her and then send transport her to a facility in Arizona.

Just deny her entry.