re: Can someone tell me the legitimate list of what SHOULD have been done re: CV19?

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You work at a NY hospital. Don’t break an arm patting yourself on the back.

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I last set foot on a subway in February. I certainly the downside potential of this virus to impact society. If I were mayor things would have been very different, but alas.


Anyhow my point point is that somewhere along the way this Board migrated to what in March would have been considered here the alarmist, chicken little position.

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he's 100% right ... this board was LITTERED with threads about how this would't be worse than the flu, the summer would kill it, HCQ would kill it, etc

hell, it still is to a large extent

the same people who promoted those incorrect assertions haven't stopped with the hot takes, either

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First, to whatever extent the board was littered with "won't be worse than the flu," let's not forget that in the end, that suggestion is substantially more accurate than the BS being preached at the time by the other side of the debate. Remember 10% mortality? Or 7%. Do we have 5%? Remember "no less than 10x flu mortality" (I believe that was Fauci) - so whose "hot takes" have been proven disastrously wrong?

Moreover, there's a difference between arguing the virus should be completely ignored and the virus should be kept in perspective. I've been exceedingly skeptical of nearly everything we've done in response to the virus, but have never suggested the virus wasn't real or very deadly for the folks most at risk.

Lastly, IMO it should bother more people that we still develop and report data like gospel that is simply inaccurate.

So at the top of my list of things Trump could have done is to have directed the establishment of COVID metrics with clear (and transparent) standards and reporting procedures. In addition to that, he should have had a group of experts advising him/the country on the human cost of the mandates/lockdowns as they were recommended/adopted. That's fully half of the COVID discussion that in the end might matter most, yet it pretty much hasn't even started.

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Let’s be clear here. There’s no reason for it to threaten the school year or collegiate sports. Zero. That’s just people scared of lawsuits and, even more, bad publicity.

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Well, this is America, so....

Also if the NFL doesn't play that's not a lawsuit thing. They're pretty well covered I'd imagine.

Perhaps what New Zealand did, of which the most important thing was to have an intelligent, competent leader, not the dottering, narcissistic idiot we have.

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Perhaps what New Zealand did, of which the most important thing was to have an intelligent, competent leader, not the dottering, narcissistic idiot we have.

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You’re an imbecile.

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How much are they paying you?

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We should not have shut down at all and let the damn thing run its course...

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Rule #1: Leave the churches open so the people can go pray to God to ask Him to get rid of this virus.
(Never trust a person that says: Close the churches. This person does not understand God. Granting a dispensation for all people 65 and over would be sufficient. All people under 65 with NO pre-existing conditions would be good to go. IF they get COVID, give them HCQ immediately, and continue with business as usual.)

Rule #2: Don't send people back to nursing homes when they are still contagious with Covid. NY, NJ, Penn, and some other states did this.
Unbelievable that some governors were too stupid to do Rule 2.

Rule #3: Give HCQ to EVERYONE who test positive if they have any symptoms.

RULE #4: Give HCQ to EVERYONE who is on the front lines, such as medical personnel and teachers.

RULE #5: Leave schools open. Daycares stayed open. What is the difference?

How many deaths would have been avoided had Rule #2 been implemented by ALL states? How many deaths have been attributed to COVID-19 when they really died from an accident, heart attack, stroke, aneurism, etc., all of which had fewer deaths this year versus a normal year.
US COVID deaths would have probably been less than half if the deaths were counted correctly and some governors would have protected the elderly.

Only Sweden got it right. Herd immunity and shut nothing down. Covid is pretty much over in Sweden.

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basically all of that is wrong, but Ill just cover the worst one: China did not buy up a lot of PPE.

We gave it to them.

Even though our own front line workers didn't have any.

FEBRUARY 5 - "HHS Secretary Alex Azar (asked the WH) for $2 billion to buy respirator masks and other supplies for a depleted federal stockpile of emergency medical equipment."
"The stockpile holds masks, drugs, ventilators and other items."
"The federal cache has been overwhelmed by urgent requests for masks, respirators, goggles, gloves and gowns in the two months since the first U.S. case of covid-19 was confirmed. Many state officials say they do not understand the standards that determine how much they will receive."

The 2B was denied and he was given 500M.

FEBRUARY 7 - "This week the State Department has facilitated the transportation of nearly 17.8 tons of donated medical supplies to the Chinese people, including masks, gowns, gauze, respirators, and other vital materials. These donations are a testament to the generosity of the American people."
"(The US is) prepared to spend up to $100 million in existing funds to assist China and other impacted countries, both directly and through multilateral organizations, to contain and combat the novel coronavirus."

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The White House was just listening to the scientists, right? Here's Anthony Fauci on 2/18 -

"Fauci doesn't want people to worry about coronavirus, the danger of which is "just minuscule." But he does want them to take precautions against the "influenza outbreak, which is having its second wave."

"We have more kids dying of flu this year at this time than in the last decade or more," he said. "At the same time people are worrying about going to a Chinese restaurant. The threat is (we have) a pretty bad influenza season, particularly dangerous for our children."

"Fauci offered advice for people who want to protect against the "real and present danger" of seasonal flu, which also would protect against the hypothetical danger of coronavirus."

literally all he had to do was take it seriously. we knew China was stalling and hiding shite, everyone did, but trump just wanted this to go away so when China told him what he wanted to hear he didnt question it for a second.

remember when he used to say it would just magically die off all by itself?

Xi is the one who told him that.

FEBRUARY 12 - "I had a long talk with President Xi — for the people in this room — two nights ago, and he feels very confident. He feels very confident. And he feels that, again, as I mentioned, by April or during the month of April, the heat, generally speaking, kills this kind of virus."