re: Can anyone give me the reasons the OT ppl think we should be sending billions to Ukraine?

Lol. Trust him with his articles instead of live hearings from our govt. I was watching specifically when they said that.

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1) Most of the money is not going to Ukraine.
So, $$$ is spent in America that creates jobs, and our military gets stronger at the same time.

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Our military isn't getting stronger by any stretch of the imagination.

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2) Russia is very much our enemy.

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Russia has zero effect on my life, the US government is the enemy.

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The war in Ukraine is revealing Russian brutality and inhumanity. The mass rapes and murders of Ukrainians, the systemic kidnapping of over 17,000 Ukrainian children, etc. Recently, it's been revealed that a number of the torture centers that Russia set up in occupied Ukraine had the exact same electroshock machines, indicating that the torture chambers were part of a systematic plan.

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90% of that is complete bullshite, open your eyes. I used to believe this garbage too for a couple months.

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A Russian victory in Ukraine would encourage China in its designs on taking Taiwan

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China has already made up it's mind on Taiwan and it's not changing. They probably won't even have to fire a shot. They're also turning much of the non-western world against us at a remarkable rate.

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Iran's military program is growing substantially as a result of this war, and new reports suggest that Iran could build a nuclear weapon in as little as three months.

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That has nothing to do with this war. Thanks Obama

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and they are pulling T-54s out of storage, which were first made in 1948.

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They're not going to use T-54s in Ukraine, it's a nice narrative though.

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Russian losses will get much higher as the conflict goes on

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Since the first month, Russia has largely kept their more elite forces out of the fray, while Ukraine has lost the majority of their best troops.

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At the end of this war, Russia will be a spent force

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Russia hasn't been a real threat to the US in a conventional war for decades. However, a destabilized Russia is a very real threat to the US.


I appreciate you taking the time to thoughtfully respond like this but most of these talking points are straight from the most incompetent (& diverse!) administration in American history, used to justify a proxy war that we have no business being a part of. The amount of weapons flooding into Ukraine are going to turn this region into a warzone for the next 20 years and many civilians will die because of it.

Your link has nothing detailing the accounting of how and where our money is being spent in Ukraine.

“We blew up a bunch of Russian tanks” isn’t an accounting

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Everyone is bought and paid for while we continue to work and pay taxes to fund the scam. All the while the career politicians continue to line their slimy pockets at our expense.

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Nice rant. Proof offered, none, just ranting and raving like a lunatic.

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What’s nuts is you obsessing over Russia while your odds of being a victim of a violent crime by the adherents of the party you blindly vote for are several orders of magnitude greater.

they still think we have ben the good guys and none of them went to go get blown up by allah in the desert.

None of them cared when we shipped weapons to south america, or droned women in children in the ME, unless it was a jew killing a muslim.

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Nutso.

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When Vice President Kamala Harris compared January 6th to 9/11 and Pearl Harbor it was not an accident. In both of those tragic attacks on our country, unlimited power was granted to the government to detain, imprison, investigate, and convict citizens for their perceived ideology.


They don’t realize they’re caught up in the same kind of authoritarian overreach because they have convinced themselves that the so-called “insurrection” was driven by “white rage.” Looking back twenty years from now all of this will be easier to parse - how fear drove our government to go to war with its own people.

Has Russia flung our Border wide open?

Is Russia currently trying to ban your right to bear arms?

Was it Russians who went into a school the other day and killed some Christians?

Is Russia pushing tranny and groomer ideology?

Is Russia calling for defunding and dismantling the police?

Is it Russia’s policies that have turned American cities into 3rd world cesspools of crime and violence?

Was it Russians who literally tried to burn the country down during 2020’s ‘summer of love’?

Are Russians the people weaponizing the Federal bureaucracy against conservatives?

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Now, all the anti-Americanism is on the Right.

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blow it out your arse. i was never right. But becuase i support the 1st and 2nd im a far right extremist.

oh and no matter what i do, i can never be a woman.

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So weakening them to the point of desperation is a good idea, how?

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Weakening them is absolutely a great idea. If Ukraine were to lose this war, a lot of other countries would conclude that possession of nuclear weapons is the only way to deter aggression. Ukraine, as we already discussed, gave up its nukes in 1994 in exchange for protection guarantees.

A Ukrainian loss would be very bad for nuclear proliferation, and we don't want a world with lots more countries having nuclear weapons.