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re: Can a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion? Ohio says NO

Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:00 pm to
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A video (MULTIPLE videos actually) is not a “conspiracy theory.”

It (they) stands on its own accord.


K. Well, have fun with that.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 3:00 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:02 pm to
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Are you a fan of showering with a daughter that is old enough at the time to remember it as being “awkward?”
No. What an odd question. I thought I answered it already.

Would you link us to a quote from the purported diary on this point? I am not as obsessed with it as you, and I do not recall her exact language. Also maybe a link to her purported statement of her age at the time? TIA
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 3:03 pm
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:03 pm to
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All rape victims should be able to get an abortion.


Not the popular opinion, and I get it, I'm staunchly against abortion. It is correct though, it's just as inhumane to make someone carry out a pregnancy that they had no part in the decision. In a perfect world, many people would carry to term and keep, or give up for adoption, but if abortion is the answer, infanticide charges should be levied against the rapist. It was his decision that led to it after all.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143804 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:04 pm to
are we no longer concerned if this imaginary girl can get an abortion or not?

This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 3:07 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:05 pm to
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Look at HER reaction .... You think she recoils for no reason
He touched her chest, and she did not like it. I don't think I have seen anyone contend otherwise.

I think that the QUESTIONS revolve around (a) whether the placement of his hand was intentional and (b) whether he "pinched" her "nipple."

We have beaten-to-death the questions regarding whether she expressed her feelings on the matter to some anonymous Aussie blogger.
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you moron
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 3:07 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:09 pm to
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are we no longer concerned if this ... girl can get an abortion or not?
That does seem to still be one of the 3-4 topics now being covered in the thread.

In one state she cannot. In another state she can.

I don't think we've resolved the question of whether that situation constitutes "good policy." Or whether we will ever do so here.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:14 pm to
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mmcgrath


Stfu you cuck
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:44 pm to
America has something like 400k children in foster care. Dont see people lining up to adopt them. In a few years that number will 25-30% higher i expect pro life crowd to start holding rallies and fund raiser's to help these children find new homes. I will also hold my breathe until the GOP has the house and senate to propose a bill that will help these children and cut the gigantic cost of actually adopting an American child.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38357 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:02 pm to
Or you could be more responsible and just not get pregnant unless you want to. Abortion on demand made it too easy to get rid of the problem.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28115 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:09 pm to
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America has something like 400k children in foster care.


This thread was about a 10-year-old getting raped and being "forced" to stay pregnant. I said that would be such a high profile case there'd be little issue finding a set of parents.

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In a few years that number will 25-30% higher


Complete speculation. People's behaviors could change in reaction to not being able to use abortion as a form of birth control.

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I will also hold my breathe...


That'd be wonderful.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138885 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:11 pm to
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I can't possibly imagine what medical conditions could arise late in a pregnancy.
None. Third trimester abortion under the pretext of life of the mother is BS. Induced delivery in a hospital or C/S would be leagues safer for the mother under those circumstances.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:18 pm to
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Don't pivot away from the national gun registry you advocated for.
I don't get it. Do we have a national gun registry for fully automatics or not? So what makes that unConstitutional??
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138885 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:22 pm to
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Would you link us to a quote from the purported diary on this point?
Memories of "probably inappropriate" showers with her father was the language used. Impression is she was 3 or 4.



IMO that doesn't make for a great shower pairing, but maybe I'm being "Victorian".
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:24 pm to
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Don't pivot away from the national gun registry you advocated for.
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I don't get it. Do we have a national gun registry for fully automatics or not? So what makes that unConstitutional?

I think everyone with a functional nervous system will admit that the registry you describe would meet constitutional muster under the current governing standards. The references to "constitutionality" are basically an assertion that those current standards are wrong and should be re-evaluated, much as Roe was just re-evaluated.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:26 pm to
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Impression is she was 3 or 4.
That was my impression as well, but we had a poster in this thread who confidently assured us that she was a teen at the time of those purported showers.
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Rebel Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:06 pm to AggieHank86
She was a teenager at the time.
I asked him for a link to prove this assertion, but he deserted the thread.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 4:35 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:33 pm to
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America has something like 400k children in foster care.


That’s an almost meaningless number.

How many entered foster care in the last year? We could guess somewhere around 210k-240k.

How many total kids will be in the system next year? Roughly the same number ~400k

An almost equal number of kids will exit the foster system as enter. Around 50k-60k will be adopted. 60k-75k will have their parents lose their parental rights.

So saying “there’s 4 bajillion kids in foster care” provides nothing of value to the conversation.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:37 pm to
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saying “there’s 4 bajillion kids in foster care” provides nothing of value to the conversation.
Agreed.

No offense to the kids (because it is usually not their fault), but most of the kids in the foster system also have "problems" of some sort, and many of the families who would really like to adopt a non-aborted newborn would not have the same level of interest in many of the kids in the foster system.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49522 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:42 pm to
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ust as inhumane to make someone carry out a pregnancy that they had no part in the decision

I maintain that "rape" is determined at the time the 'rape' is being performed.

Deciding 3 months later that he 'raped' you because he quit bringing you flowers or started dating another girl is not "rape."

Rape must be declared immediately and often enough to get it on record.

Only exception would be being under some kind of manipulative control which makes it unsafe to speak up.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:03 pm to
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I don't get it.


Clearly.

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Do we have a national gun registry for fully automatics or not?


Why do you think this is an equivalence to what you've proposed?

Also, what makes you think that because it hasn't been overturned yet, that it's inherently Constitutional?
Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6956 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:49 pm to
This story is most likely fake news.

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