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re: Cake baker loses appeal... Must bake for all people
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:34 am to tigerpawl
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:34 am to tigerpawl
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Not unlike the Catholic pharmacist who sells the Morning After pill.
or the Catholic organizations whose health insurance plans must now cover birth control and/or abortion.
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:34 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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That was the argument used to have segregated sections of stores and to deny service to black people at hotels and restaurants.
Agree and I am 100% against discrimination of any kind... But I still think a private organization should be able to pick and choose who they align themselves with.
Now if a business chose not to do business with someone based off of reasons such as race or sexuality, they would not get one red cent of my money.
I cannot stand racists and its getting to the same point with homophobes.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:37 am to darkhorse
This is bullshite.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:41 am to udtiger
quote:A very succinct statement of position. Fully explains which side you fall on this issue.
This is bullshite.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:46 am to darkhorse
It's against my religion to bake for whitey.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:49 am to JuiceTerry
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It's against my religion to bake for whitey.
and so you shouldn't be forced to do so against your will
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:49 am to JuiceTerry
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It's against my religion to bake for whitey.
I completely understand. I refuse to ride in a car with Alabama license plates.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:52 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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That was the argument used to have segregated sections of stores and to deny service to black people at hotels and restaurants.
Well, then a sign saying 'no shoes, no shirt, no service' is discriminating against a class of customers.
Edit... darn it...I now see that Tiger Saint beat me to it.
This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 10:53 am
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:54 am to Ponchy Tiger
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But I assure you it would be the last cake they ever purchased from me. No I wouldn't harm anyone, but that would be the worst cake they have ever eaten.
Judge Joe Brown would make you pay and make a new cake...
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:54 am to Lsut81
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Thats a policy for health reasons... Completely different than the no gay cakes policy.
What's unhealthy about not wearing a shirt. My face has more germs than my chest.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:59 am to Zach
<----- If it looks like this I agree
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:00 am to Lsut81
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And this is coming from a pro-gay marriage person
Aren't you also a states right person? These are local and state laws. I find it incredibly inconsistent that the same people who believe marriage should be decided by the state disagrees that the state (and city) shod be able to make their own laws on community standards.
It's terribly inconsistent but Republicans are terribly inconsistent.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:14 am to darkhorse
Just not sure Enzo isn't overcompensating here. He bakes wedding cakes, ffs.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:16 am to Lsut81
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Thats a policy for health reasons
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:24 am to Vegas Bengal
quote:I don't have a problem with a state making laws on community standards, unless those laws violate the US constitution. That's how Prop 8 got overturned; the court decided that the citizens of California had passed a law (changed the state constitution, actually) that was in violation of the US Constitution.
Aren't you also a states right person? These are local and state laws. I find it incredibly inconsistent that the same people who believe marriage should be decided by the state disagrees that the state (and city) shod be able to make their own laws on community standards.
As for this particular case, I think the courts probably got it right. I'm pretty sure it is settled US law that if you are in business and open to the public you must be open to all the public. You can't pick and choose who your customers are.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:27 am to L.A.
Wonder how long it'll be before a black bakery is forced to make a KKK cake or something similar for some racist, to prove a point.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:32 am to Alahunter
quote:This is the problem I have with this case. I can't help feeling it was done just to make a point.
Wonder how long it'll be before a black bakery is forced to make a KKK cake or something similar for some racist, to prove a point
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:32 pm to L.A.
Well when a local community passes an ordinance that businesses can't discriminate against racists, then you have something. Until then, you have nothing to worry about.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:34 pm to L.A.
Spot on.
Personally I don't like any local ordinances like this or blue laws or any laws which restrict the selling of just about anything. But it is what it is. People get what they want and they want this
Personally I don't like any local ordinances like this or blue laws or any laws which restrict the selling of just about anything. But it is what it is. People get what they want and they want this
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:35 pm to Lsut81
quote:This
fricking ridiculous... A private business should be able to choose who it wants to do business with.
quote:It's things like this that have turned me against it.
And this is coming from a pro-gay marriage person.
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