re: But fentanyl doesn't come from Venezuela!!!!!

Some retard you agree with types some shite and you call it a master class.
Did they personally tell you where the boats were going

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Even without the drugs, I'm perfectly okay with us smashing their angry, communist government and replacing it with the prosperous government they had before. I'm sure the Venezuelan people would agree with me.

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US-imposed regime change. that always works out well.

Mexican Cartels don't like using Venezuelan gangs. They don't have the type of control that they have with other Mexican types handling activities in the US.

The cartels are businessmen who need a certain amount of order in their organizations. Tren de Aragua does not provide them with that type of control. They aren't huge fans of MS 13 either.

That graph's latest data point is in '24

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Except they did not have a "prosperous" government before.

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They did, but they began to rely too heavily on oil, which brought instability.

Still better than eating rats and collecting water from puddles.

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A LOT of things are “wild” to you like common sense, drug use

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Yeah, Bunk, common sense clearly says that it's Venezuela's fault that Americans take drugs. duh.

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It is actually very easy to establish that Venezuela is not producing or exporting fentanyl. Fentanyl is not a crop or a naturally occurring substance like coca or opium. It is a fully synthetic opioid that requires a controlled supply of specific precursor chemicals and a stable industrial or clandestine laboratory process. Those precursor chemicals overwhelmingly come from China and go to Mexico, where established cartel labs convert them into finished fentanyl or counterfeit pills. That supply chain has been documented for years through seizures, precursor orders, lab raids, and chemical tracking. None of those chemical flows point to Venezuela.

So the absence of precursor imports, lab capacity, seizures, cartel involvement, or trafficking routes makes it very straightforward to say Venezuela is not a fentanyl source. You do not need to trust the government on blind faith. The logistics themselves tell the story.

And I will fully admit I am Joe Schmoe Six Pack Politard, but if you are on desktop you can see my location. It's only notable for two reasons: it's home of the US Army Intelligence Center and it sits directly on one of the most notorious smuggling corridors in the country and is consistently a top 3 entry point for fentanyl into the U.S. I live here for a reason and I do know a little more about what US intelligence has gathered about this particular subject than the average politarder. None of it, NONE, points to Venezuela.

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You say “what we are doing” as if a policy built on a false premise is some noble cause. It is not. Fentanyl does not come from Venezuela. It never has. Every available source from DEA reports to trafficking maps shows the same China to Mexico route. So when you call people “sacks of shits” for pointing out basic geography and supply chains, that says more about your emotional instability than the facts.

If you want to support military action, then defend the action on its own terms. Don't pretend it is about fentanyl when the drug you are invoking as your moral cover does not even originate there. Facts are not opposition. They are just facts.

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Nobody can afford fentanyl with trumps tariffs

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Once upon a time, responsibility and self-control were a conservative mantra. Why did you Trumpists change that?

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When … leftists decided to pick and choose who has to rely on responsibility and self control and who doesn't

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Thank you.

It is nice to have formal confirmation that you Trumpists have abandoned the notions of responsibility and self-control.

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How does this prove fentanyl comes from Venezuela?

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What's weird is how all the people who said Trump was just going for a regime change constantly focus on fentanyl as the sole reason for action.

Other reasons to bomb Venezuela have been mentioned, but every single time, their argument always returns to fentanyl.

These people admit there is more going on, but whenever they try to argue against the bombings, it's always "fentanyl doesn't come from Venezuela."

We know there is more going on than fentanyl, the detractors own words verify they believe it, so constantly using "fentanyl doesn't come from Venezuela" is rather dumb.

So, they know these actions aren't just about Venezuelan fentanyl, but yet, that's the argument they always use. Their own beliefs contradict their own arguments. That lets everyone know they are just flailing and don't have a valid point.

If you don't believe that the attacks are about fentanyl but keep using that as your argument, then you can't be taken seriously.