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Budget Deficit?

Posted on 10/27/20 at 12:32 pm
Posted by jyoung1
Lafayette
Member since May 2010
2123 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 12:32 pm
Why has it increased so much under Trump (before Covid)?

Can someone explain to me in a non-biased way? Tried to find an article online from non fake news but no luck.

Is it just tax cuts? Wasn't able to cut funding?

Does it matter?
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
7966 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 12:33 pm to
No, the tax cuts increased receipts. It’s spending, plain and simple.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 12:34 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71435 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 12:33 pm to
Things are more expensive than the year before.
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1716 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 12:33 pm to
Tax revenues actually increased after the tax cuts.

Something else happened though.....oh..spending increased at a faster pace.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71080 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 12:33 pm to
Spending went unchecked as always.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8893 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Does it matter?


Yes
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57244 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

Why has it increased so much under Trump (before Covid)?
Go read any of the 2009-2013 CBO outlooks. In short, baseline increase under Obama disguised as "stimulus", demographics (old people on SS/MEDI and the growing cost to service the debt (interest).

quote:

Does it matter?
No. It's going kaboom. Just a question of how soon it happens.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 12:36 pm
Posted by moloz
The North Shore
Member since Oct 2013
375 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 12:35 pm to
The President can’t spend a penny that congress doesn’t appropriate. The problem is the democratic controlled congress and the fact that the country has been spending money on continuing resolutions and hasn’t actually had a budget in years.
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Go read any of the 2009-2013 CBO outlooks. In short, baseline increase under Obama disguised as "stimulus", demographics (old people on SS/MEDI and the growing cost to service the debt (interest).


Taxing has it nailed down.

NO MATTER WHAT we do to cut spending or even keep the overall budget flatlined... SS/MEDI will continue to absolutely blow up the budget in the next decade.
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1716 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 12:48 pm to
The entire deficit/debt problem is one that cant be fixed due to a number of issues.

The incentives are all out of whack.

What politician can tell their citizens:

"im going to charge you more and give you fewer services in order to pay for past excesses....and in the process it's going to result in a calculated recession"

and still get elected?

Gov spending (net of taxes) is a component of GDP. When GDP growth has been dependent on deficit spending for the better part of 20 years no wants to be the person that stops that growth.

You will get blamed for the recession and the longer term benefits that come with the fiscal fix will be enjoyed by your replacement.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
4634 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 12:57 pm to
We had more money coming in and even more going out.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11102 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 1:08 pm to
Fortunately for the concerned academia now has taken Keynesian theory to it's logical conclusion when humans are in charge and now think deficits are a benefit to tax payers. Good news is they won't have to raise your taxes using this new brain busting logic that defies all of civilized human history
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10313 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 1:16 pm to
Although receipts have increased so has spending. The money managers, Congress, cannot stop there addiction. The free shite needs to stop .
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112475 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 1:18 pm to
Do you remember the constant: 'Govt is gonna shut down unless we reach an agreement' ??
The Dems run the House and they spend money. Trump went along with a lot of it to avoid shut down.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68235 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 1:23 pm to
Because there are no actual budgets any longer and only continuing resolutions that the Republicans and Trump don't fight against enough. They fear the whole "shut down" BS.

In his second term, he needs to severely reduce spending.
Posted by MorningWood
On the coast of North Mexico
Member since May 2009
2669 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 1:50 pm to
Congress has a spending problem.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10153 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 1:54 pm to
entitlements. ALWAYS entitlements!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57244 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

The money managers, Congress, cannot stop there addiction.
To be fair, the voters don't want (real) spending cuts. Our government is functioning as designed--representative of the people.

Don't believe it?

Go campaign on cutting SS and Medicare and see how many votes you get.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Why has it increased so much under Trump


Because our Congress is wildly out of control and 90% minimum of Americans don’t understand what congress does or why it’s so important.

Ask anyone to name just one of their congressional reps in either houses and I’d bet my life 60% of people can’t do it.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10313 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 2:48 pm to
Your statement while partly correct about not wanting cuts is because of the give me something for free crowd . This vicious cycle of give more begets dependency which they desire even more . It can be reversed if the idea of self worth and education reforms are instilled in the population .
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