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re: Britain to return to Imperial Measurements

Posted on 9/17/21 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 9:27 pm to
Base 12 units are very useful for a lot of things.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135357 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 9:28 pm to
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All machinery is done in metric. It’s not even possible to do it in imperial
and in science.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19593 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 9:29 pm to
I don't understand why we can't teach both in schools.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6687 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 9:48 pm to
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International Trade. Standardization. Global economy, bro


I'm not a globalist. I don't do international trading, and I don't care about the global economy. And you missed the point. You're trying to give me a reason as to why you think I should know the metric system, when I said I've never had a reason. If I ever needed to know it, I'd use a translator. But what I asked was how is either one better than the other? They are different, and yet, if you can translate them, then measuring should not be a problem. It never has been for me.
Posted by SkinnyTestaverde
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Dec 2009
401 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 10:07 pm to
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on't understand why we can't teach both in schools.


Lmao are you kidding me? They can barely teach our kids to add
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
8876 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 10:31 pm to
An oldie but goodie quote to drop on you youngsters:

There are two types of countries out there. Countries that use the metric system and countries that have put a man on the Moon.

Let that sink in.
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
5022 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 10:51 pm to
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The usual suspects are, of course, screaming about backwards old white men, etc.



12 is greater than 10. Always has been and always will be.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
7880 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 10:54 pm to
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’ll try to find the video, but it has to do with complex numbers and regression stuff.




“I will momentarily link something instead of trying to regurgitate something on which I have no understanding at all”
Posted by Shoney
Tennessee Hills
Member since Jan 2014
339 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 11:23 pm to
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How we measure horses makes for a more accurate description

So I would be like 17 hands tall? I’m 6 ft.
Posted by Tigrdynasty
19th hole
Member since Jun 2018
3152 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 11:29 pm to
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 foot unlike a meter can be cleanly divided by two , three and four – which for a carpenter or tailor makes it the better unit to work with


Idk about all that carpenter and tailor bs but a meter can be divided by 100. It's called a millimeter. A foot can be divided by 100 also, it's about 1/8" but with metric it's exactly 1/100 and the decimal works without conversion. Add to that that a millimeter is roughly 1/25 of an inch and you have a more precise measurement as well.
Posted by SaintInBham
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2015
1107 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 11:36 pm to
This is seriously going to screw with my cocaine purchases
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135357 posts
Posted on 9/18/21 at 6:18 am to
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Idk about all that carpenter and tailor bs but a meter can be divided by 100. It's called a millimeter. A foot can be divided by 100 also, it's about 1/8" but with metric it's exactly 1/100 and the decimal works without conversion. Add to that that a millimeter is roughly 1/25 of an inch and you have a more precise measurement as well.
Kind of like descriptions of a woman as 1.66m with 87-61-87 measurements, or an offensive lineman at 1.98m and 140kg.

Good? Bad? ... Got a calculator?

But "much more precise". Right?

Nah.

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In fact, preferential imperial use in daily living is not just d/t familiarity with the system. Imperial units were based on lengths, volumes, or weights of things commonly encountered in everyday use. The result is ease of use in daily activities, but randomness in science. (Water freezes at 32°F, Boils at 212°F)

Metrics are anchored on scientific landmarks (Water freezes at 0°C, Boils at 100°C), but carry the expectation of adaptation to daily use.

So whereas the imperial system offers 4 common linear units (inches, feet, yards, and miles), metrics offers just three. It makes a difference. The metric result is unwieldy in day-to-day application ... centimeters (too small), meters (too large), and kilometers (too small).

For example, we measure homes in sq ft. Why? Because that is a more manageable, convenient measurement for the purpose than sq yards. Sq meters is an even more cumbersome area measurement than sq yds though. Yet that is what metrics sticks you with. So the average US home is 213.68 sq m, with an average price of $1830/sq m instead of 2300 sq ft at $170/sq ft.

For small measurements in science, metrics are far more useful. E.g., mg,µg,ng or mm,µm,nm. Again, no accident. The Imperial system was not designed with such miniscule measurements in mind.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 9/18/21 at 6:53 am to
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I’ll try to find the video, but it has to do with complex numbers and regression stuff.



When making bold statements one should have enough command of the subject to defend it, like now.

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and regression stuff.


Not the language that engenders confidence in readers.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62493 posts
Posted on 9/18/21 at 11:02 am to
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dk about all that carpenter and tailor bs but a meter can be divided by 100. It's called a millimeter.
Metric is definitely fool proof.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62493 posts
Posted on 9/18/21 at 11:03 am to
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But "much more precise". Right?

Nah.
That's the problem. Metric measurements imply more precision than they actually have when guestimating length.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62493 posts
Posted on 9/18/21 at 11:09 am to
Having lots of experience with old cars... I'll also say imperial bolts are easier to work with. I can look at a nut and tell if it's 7/16" or 1/2" or 5/8". But if its 10mm or 11mm... gotta guess. Seems like 80% of the time I grab the wrong socket or wrench with metric cars.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50739 posts
Posted on 9/18/21 at 11:14 am to
If I say to you, "imagine a cube, 76mmx76mmx76mm" would you better understand if I described it as 3"x3"x3"?

Now, engineering-wise, that makes perfect sense in millimeters, but for everyday folks, the simplification is just much better to use inches.
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