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Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:40 pm to AggieHank86
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It is certainly indicative of their willingness to lie in order to get what they wanted from the judge
orrrrr, the ky ag is right and they followed procedure. the "indication" exists in your mind and not based on ANY evidence, testimony or facts at all
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:40 pm to the808bass
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I’m disputing that. They broke down the door before Walker shot.
This is probably true and would be easily verified by looking at the door. And for the record I don’t think Walker believed the people at the door were police and decided to shoot anyway. You’d have to be suicidal to shoot at police entering your home and I don’t think KW fits that profile. I also don’t think the police would knock and NOT announce. If it was truly a no-knock then the BT and KW wouldn’t have time to wake up and get clothes on. The story as it stands doesn’t make sense.
The only thing that makes sense to me is If the shot from KW was an accident caused by being startled when the door burst in.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:41 pm to the808bass
quote:Right. But it's less clear that the police behavior AFTER wasn't wrong. I mean, they charged Walker with attempted murder. Those charges were dropped after several months. Why?
It’s all a tragedy. I don’t think the police did anything wrong (I’m also not sure they announced). I’m not sure Kenneth Walker did anything wrong. Sometimes bad shite happens.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:42 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:you never did answer the question from the other thread so, this quip from you really doesn't mean much
You're mind is obviously made up
quote:otherwise known as concluding only what the facts allow. as opposed to crooked cops who broke down the wrong door, charged in, started shooting up the place, then leaned on the witnesses who said there wasn't a knock, then somehow got the ky ag to collude with them. yeah, that's WAYYYYYYY more believable.
Only mindless bootlicking for you
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:43 pm to Big Scrub TX
Because they would have leverage on the narrative.
Old habits die hard.
Same reason they offered a plea deal to the dangerous drug dealer if he’d implicate Breonna.
Old habits die hard.
Same reason they offered a plea deal to the dangerous drug dealer if he’d implicate Breonna.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:43 pm to SidewalkTiger
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A white man was killed in much this same manner in early 2020.
Bet you've never heard about that.
And that's the story of all this BLM BS. There was a white dude shot 4 times in the back by a cop after he answered his apartment door at 3am. He was drunk and/or high, also had a handgun but never did anything with it but point it at the floor - he didn't know who was knocking on the door according to his girlfriend. When he opened the door and realized it was the police, he began to get on his knees (as instructed) but one of the cops freaked and shot him in the back (police were on either side of the then opened door). The guy's family will get rich, but there were no riots. Nobody GAF beyond it being a local news story for a few days.
By the way, this happened either on the same day as George Floyd or the day before. This also happened about five miles from my home. Another five miles in another direction is where the somewhat well known Daniel Shaver shooting happened, which ranks way high on the most egregious police shootings ever list. So I'm thinking if this has happened twice in my area over the list five years or so, think about how often it happens across a country of 330 million people regardless of race.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:44 pm to bfniii
If you haven’t listened to Kenneth Walker’s 911 call, we can safely assume you don’t want all the facts.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:44 pm to the808bass
quote:
If you haven’t listened to Kenneth Walker’s 911 call, we can safely assume you don’t want all the facts.
Troof
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:45 pm to bfniii
quote:What's the question?
ou never did answer the question from the other thread so, this quip from you really doesn't mean much
quote:Nah. I'm more concerned with their behavior AFTER the fact.
otherwise known as concluding only what the facts allow. as opposed to crooked cops who broke down the wrong door, charged in, started shooting up the place, then leaned on the witnesses who said there wasn't a knock, then somehow got the ky ag to collude with them. yeah, that's WAYYYYYYY more believable.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:45 pm to Robin Masters
quote:and THIS is why everyone needs to WAIT for the trial instead of pulling an obama and prematurely telling the community to go for it and also why the ky ag's account is pretty darned important. he probably has the facts that the general public doesn't yet, hank/bigscrub feel free to perpetuate the stupid blm narrative even after they've been challenged on it
The story as respirated doesn’t make sense
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:47 pm to bfniii
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ky ag's account is pretty darned important
I think the KY AG telegraphed pretty clearly that there might be some issues with the warrant application.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:48 pm to the808bass
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Yeah. Did you listen to Walker’s 911 call?
Uggg. Gut wrenching.
I never felt like he was the type to fire at someone he knew to be police barging down the door. That never made sense.
But it also never made sense for the police to knock long and loud enough to wake them up and give them time to get dressed and go ask who it was but never announce themselves as police.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:48 pm to the808bass
quote:i asked you a question. until you answer that question, your criticism doesn't have much weight
If you haven’t listened to Kenneth Walker’s 911 call, we can safely assume you don’t want all the facts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:49 pm to bfniii
quote:I haven't perpetuated BLM anything.
and THIS is why everyone needs to WAIT for the trial instead of pulling an obama and prematurely telling the community to go for it and also why the ky ag's account is pretty darned important. he probably has the facts that the general public doesn't yet, hank/bigscrub feel free to perpetuate the stupid blm narrative even after they've been challenged on it
Here's my 2 cents boiled down:
the war on drugs is stupid and leads to negative outcomes just like this
the BF actively exercised his 2nd Amendment rights when his home was invaded - something that would normally earn him all kinds of lionization
the police behaved poorly in the aftermath
That's it. I don't have nearly enough information to know which charges (if any) are appropriate. I (mostly) trust the system from here to do something quasi-rational, reasonable and appropriate.
I also have zero interest in speaking ill of the dead or otherwise minimizing/diminishing the tragedy of the entire thing.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:49 pm to bfniii
You’re just playing a game. That’s fine. Don’t pretend you’re seeking truth.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:50 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:statistics that back up BLM claims.
What's the question?
quote:this coming from a person who says that being a police officer isn't really "dangerous" and that we need to define dangerous.
Nah. I'm more concerned with their behavior AFTER the fact
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:51 pm to TutHillTiger
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So it was ok? If it was a white guy in middle class neighborhood would it be ok too?
I don’t think police care what color the people are that’s shooting at them. They’ll shoot back!
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:51 pm to the808bass
quote:He cares about waiting for all the facts to come out - just so long as those facts perfectly dovetail with his confirmation bias that the police can do no wrong.
You’re just playing a game. That’s fine. Don’t pretend you’re seeking truth.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:52 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
the BF actively exercised his 2nd Amendment rights when his home was invaded - something that would normally earn him all kinds of lionization
I do think that if Kenneth Walker looked like a poster on this board, the initial reaction might be different.
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