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re: Breaking: Trump/U.S. Labels China a Currency Manipulator..... Let's do this!!!

Posted on 8/5/19 at 9:28 pm to
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 9:28 pm to
Hail Trump!
Hail The Mighty American Dollar!
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11872 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:07 pm to
I never said they should lol they are in desperate need of dollars. Y'all are some dumb frickers I sware it's hilarious to watch. I am 100% correct on this. The more it gets devalued the worse their debt problems get. They barely have any dollars left it won't stabilize lower than USD/CNY of $7 without "manipulation" so Trump is really going to get triggered lol
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:08 pm to
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They barely have any dollars left
Link?
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:10 pm to
This gonna make things difficult for the banking investment world. What are the crypto's doing. Prolly gonna be great for them.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11872 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:14 pm to
They reported $3 trillion in June. There's no way that isn't a complete B's number and with this situation in Hong Kong there will be a run on HKD and RMB. Those people want their assets out.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133710 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:19 pm to
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with this situation in Hong Kong there will be a run on HKD and RMB. Those people want their assets out.
How does assets leaving Hong Kong drain Chinese USD reserves?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135773 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:29 pm to
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Those people want their assets out.
"Want" and "will get" are very different concepts over there. Chinese money that "wants out" often finds its owner "disappeared".

This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 10:30 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:30 pm to
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I never said they should lol they are in desperate need of dollars. Y'all are some dumb frickers I sware it's hilarious to watch. I am 100% correct on this. The more it gets devalued the worse their debt problems get. They barely have any dollars left it won't stabilize lower than USD/CNY of $7 without "manipulation" so Trump is really going to get triggered lol


What? Trump is bragging about how them devaluing(or no longer propping it up however you want to label it) their currency is them paying for the tariffs. Which is true. Yet he wants to have it both ways. He will always spin things. He’s not triggered, he’s just playing the game. I swear you’re hard r retarded.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 10:48 pm to
Forbes

Here's a dated article referring to what I'm talking about.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133710 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:02 pm to
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Here's a dated article referring to what I'm talking about.
The only thing that Forbes article and your comments have in common is the $3 trillion reserves figure China has and which you’ve already dismissed as not being true.

You realize Hong Kong has its own currency separate from China’s yuan, right? It’s the Hong Kong dollar which is pegged to the US dollar. HK also has its own central bank, the Hong Kong Monetary Authority, which is not part of the People’s Bank of China.

So again, how will assets being moved out of Hong Kong affect China’s currency reserves as you claimed?
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23750 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:05 pm to
Stop issuing student visas to the Chinese, recognize Taiwan as a sovereign nation, and add more tariffs — then watch as the Hong Kong riots deep into the mainland and spiral out of control. Keep in mind that the parents of the Only Child Generation are retiring, creating unsustainable pensions & healthcare.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33432 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:14 pm to
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This is retarded.

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wutangfinancial

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11872 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 11:14 pm to
The HKD is going to get hammered if there is military action. They wouldn't technically be independent at that point. So both currencies are at risk. If there currencies are at risk they are in the hook for the entire Chinese banking system that holds bad debt and that's significantly more than the reserves they hold right now. I feel like I'm talking past y'all.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133710 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:12 am to
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I feel like I'm talking past y'all.
You’re talking past yourself. The domestic Chinese debt that is denominated in yuan doesn’t need USD reserves. The PBOC can just print yuan to cover it. And most of the bank loans in China, by far, are made denominated in yuan, not USD.

And your Forbes article even points out China has a monthly inflow of USD of over $400 billion.

China is in no danger of exhausting its hard currency reserves.

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The HKD is going to get hammered if there is military action.
Yeah, so?
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They wouldn't technically be independent at that point.
Why not? Hong Kong’s economy would suffer but the ChiComs would just see that as just punisment for HK’s insolence. Teach them a lesson type stuff.
Posted by Mr Wrestling II
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2019
11 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:14 am to
I'm good.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13407 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:26 am to
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They shouldn’t prop up or devalue their currency.

What do you think the Fed does?
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
4011 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:47 am to
Can someone explain how devaluing their currency would be beneficial to them and a detriment to their trade partners.I honestly can't rationalize this. Also do we not control the value of our dollar/inflation by controlling the supply with our national bank? Though I had thought that had less to do with trade and more to do with limiting national debt.
Posted by AlceeFortier
Member since Dec 2016
1795 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:16 am to
lyin donnie has no idea what he is doing. he just wants to pump his base. donnie only cares about donnie getting votes. the rest of us are nothing to him—-including you.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52398 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:11 am to
Strongest economy in US history.

Yeah dipshit, Trump is clueless.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:42 am to
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What do you think the Fed does?


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