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re: Breaking: Kari Lake loses trial to overturn Arizona Governor election - Vows to appeal

Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:29 pm to
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Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:30 pm to
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There were definite legit procedural issues. But the math doesn't work for KL.

Yeah and I'm all for improving the process especially around contractor stuff. But to have that discussion it's going to take both sides to be a little more cooperative. It's not all fraud and it's not all perfect.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:31 pm to
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But it was false. Don’t be surprised when a candidate spews BS that the media calls it what it is.


Exactly who determines the claim itself was “false”? To say is claim is false is to imply the person making the claim is lying at the time he/she is making the claim.

I read the judge ruled not enough compelling evidence, not that her initial claim was “false”.

So when did the media’s job become to render its own judgement on the validity of a person’s claim? That’s not “reporting”, that’s editorializing and interjecting the writer’s own opinion into what is supposed to simply be a reported event.

If the writer(s) were to note that this piece was to be an editorial, then fine. They do not do that though.

The fact that you and others who downvote the original post which garnered your initial reply find no problems with news organizations throwing in their own opinions/judgements within a story vs. simply reporting the story is a pretty good indication of how out of touch part of this country is with regards to what the original responsibility of the fourth estate was intended to be.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:31 pm to
Very few people expected her to win that trial.


Not many judges will risk their lives to go against the establishment and woke fanatics. If I was a judge, I wouldn't risk it.


Intimidation works. Especially when law enforcement mysteriously looks the other way and ignores it whenever certain people are stalked, harassed and threatened for political purposes.
This post was edited on 12/24/22 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:32 pm to
Didn’t follow. No point. Ersatz AmeriKKKa phoned these results in months ago. Everyone knows this. Take a victory lap Mickey.
Posted by SCLibertarian
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:32 pm to
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I'm all for improving the process especially around contractor stuff.

Lol. And you think Katie Hobbs and her allies have any intention of doing that? She won't even debate and runs from questions from adversarial reporters.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:33 pm to
spot on from another poster way back


RCDfan1950
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It's becoming a painful exercise in futility and near psychotic frustration to watch people on the Right express their outrage that the Left would not only cheat, but then openly deny the evidence therein when caught dead to rights. The historical record clearly reflects just to what means the Marxists will go to serve their supposedly higher morality, as tens of millions of their ideological opposition were systematically murdered for 'the cause'. It is ludicrous to expect that Leftist even care about truth or getting caught in lies or cheating; they must chuckle at the very thought that they would or should care about being 'caught' embracing lies in order to win. Remember Harry Reid when challenged about lying on the Senate Floor re Romney's taxes..."well, we won didn't we".

Bottom line: The Left don't disrespect or fear cheating...what they fear is a real version of what they claim happened on Jan. 6. The Dems trembled with fear under their desks, because they knew in their hearts that they were guilty and deserved to be toppled from power in the same manner they intend on their opposition. By corrupt force of arms. And the sad irony is that it will be their very dishonest, self-delusional action that triggers the 'dishonest' (unlawful) reaction that history bears witness to and that will surely come.

Ruby Freeman will die believing that she did the right thing, in cheating to beat Trump. They all will.





Posted by RancherReb
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:33 pm to
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Can you blame him? There was no alternative unless he wanted to get carbombed by the CIA


Lol
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:34 pm to
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Be nice to know that for certain but they couldnt provide any chain of custody . You'll just take their word for it that it was 1200? Just like all the box #3 ballots . They can say it was counted and how many but again again they couldnt provide the chain of custody so how do we know ?


There was heresay that a lady had a voicemail from a Betty in the election office that she saw ballots being introduced in at the counting station. The county says there is no Betty, and the receiver of the voicemail never even talked to Betty.

There is no proof that the county did not follow procedures. Lake has to provide proof before there is anything for the county to refute. The presumption is the county did follow its procedures. That’s how it works.
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:36 pm to
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There is no proof that the county did not follow procedures


Yes there was. It's not anyone's job to summarize it for you, but they failed to follow their own regulations and az law in several areas.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:37 pm to
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Lol. And you think Katie Hobbs and her allies have any intention of doing that? She won't even debate and runs from questions from adversarial reporters.



Nope i didn't vote for Katie Hobbs. The people of Arizona did apparently though and i think their vote should be honored. I don't think a temper tantrum or it's cheating unless i win are much of a solution though.

Hopefully Hobbs does well for the people's sake.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26930 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:38 pm to
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ok keep denying the sky is blue. ALL ELECTIONS ARE GREAT DEMOCRATS NEVER CHEATED!


You mean you don’t take pictures of the pile of ballots you collected for close family members as you deposit them in a drop box? That’s totally normal behavior.

Posted by Cobra Tate
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Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:38 pm to
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Nope i didn't vote for Katie Hobbs


Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:38 pm to
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Exactly who determines the claim itself was “false”? To say is claim is false is to imply the person making the claim is lying at the time he/she is making the claim.


No, it doesn’t lying. A false claim can be a lie, and it can also simply be incorrect. If you have your chance in court and can’t prove it, then it seems reasonable to call it false.
Posted by Robin Masters
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:39 pm to
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Take out the word “falsely” above and they still could’ve accurately reported the story but nope…


Exactly. And it’s proof positive they are covering for the steal.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:39 pm to
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The county said there was a problem with ballots not printing dark enough. When technicians went in to troubleshoot the issue, some of the printers got set to shrink to fit. It was about 1200 ballots. All of them were reproduced and scanned as per protocol. That’s not a conspiracy to cheat anyone. That’s an IT screwup. Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.


The problem with this is that sample ballots were pulled randomly from 6 voting locations. Of the 15 ballots pulled for sample, 14 of them were 19” images on the 20” paper.

This clearly proves that the states witness wasn’t telling the truth. How did this happen in at least 6 separate locations. In addition 72 total locations experienced issues. Also, Hobbs witness said this happened in the 2020 general election as well as the 2022 primary and no one mentioned it, had a reason or investigated why.

They also denied it happened and said it was impossible unti they were entered into evidence. Once they did they they were like “oh yeah… that problem”.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40957 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:39 pm to
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Hopefully Hobbs does well for the people's sake.


um, yeah, like I really hope so too cuz like, it would totally suck if she wasn't for, like, the people
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42488 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:40 pm to
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oe Biden himself could go on the stand, admit cheating, explain how it was done with detailed photos and no judge would do anything about it.


Remember, when Trump said he could shoot somebody in Times Square? This is effectively the deep state rubbing it in his face. And ours.

The line of demarcation, for what is allowed when it comes to cheating just keeps getting nudge further and further. This tells all of the other *interested parties that they can do something to this degree, but try not to make it look so obvious.


* to all you conspiracy naysayers, this is how it works. A precedent is set, so there doesn’t need to be a formal backroom meeting or series of emails sent where things are spelled out in detail. Events happen, and those who are paying attention just need to make a mental note before moving forward. Just like during the summer of love, like minded district attorneys, mayors and governors of certain states saw how not sending out LE or NG troops can work for the greater good
This post was edited on 12/24/22 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Bulldogblitz
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Member since Dec 2018
28158 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:41 pm to
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Take out the word “falsely” above and they still could’ve accurately reported the story but nope…


I'm pleasantly shocked they didn't wedged "trump backed" in that statement.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 2:42 pm to
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Another courts time and money wasted by cultists.

Another cheap shot artist supporting the theft of the civil rights of millions of Americans
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