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re: Breaking: Kari Lake loses trial to overturn Arizona Governor election - Vows to appeal
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:32 am to dafif
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:32 am to dafif
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What I find interesting and perplexing is that this judge ordered an immediate 2 day trial and then issued the opinion within a day and yet was able to review hundreds of affidavits and the testimony and the exhibits and still was able to find all the case law from the 1800s to back up his position. And that’s just the beginning.
Seems like it was planned.
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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Trump was likely a one-off
it was a one-off all right - the dems had not prepared for the landslide support for Trump. These past few elections demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt that candidate characteristics do not matter one whit to democrat voters --Biden, AOC, Fedderman, et al
:yack: :yack: :yack: :yack: The DEMs tried the same trick in '16 as they pulled off in '20 - only they had not prepared enough material to overcome the real votes. The very same areas in '20 waited and waited and waited before finally releasing the final totals - Trump really had won Florida, Pennsylvania, etc.
They vowed never to allow that to happen again - hello Dr Fauxi and his China Corps (or more precisely the China Communist Party and its fellow-traveller, Dr Fauxi) to provide the DEMs their 'emergency' for demanding MASSIVE MAIL-IN BALLOTs be disgorged across the nation - but particularly in those pesky districts from '16. NEVER AGAIN will they show up without sufficient 'ballot' material for inclusion at 3am as required.
but you know that - you glory in it - like the prototypical Alabama patrons with their smugness regarding 'official rulings' - they got this.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:36 am to BBONDS25
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. I’d love to hear more about what makes him think it is so funny. Policy or something else? If something else, what?
I mean, policy becomes somewhat irrelevant with Trump because we already had 4 years of Trump (2 with a GOP Senate and House) and he couldn't get any of his policies through, due to incompetence, attitude, and inability to be a leader who brings the party together.
Lake has never enacted a significant political policy in her life.
On the campaign trail, Trump/Lake would be an absolute clown show trying to be as bombastic and antagonistic as possible. It would be like the first Trump-Biden debate for a year+ straight. Just uncoordinated, random haymaker-throwing, trying to get a viral clip on social media.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:37 am to ChineseBandit58
Nailed it sir. The smugness from the woke bastids on here make me want to stop by Sonic. For the life of me i dont understand their mindset.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:38 am to davyjones
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Clinton wasn’t exactly down the list of Democrat hopefuls for the nomination……she won the nationwide primary.
She was anointed long prior to 2016, dude. They gave her a dead body to run against in the "primary" (like Trump in 2020), and Bernie entered.
That anointing and her arrogance about "her turn" was really grating to a lot of Democrats, especially the Obama hardliners and the Bernie Bros. The DEM machine had to do a lot of screwing of Bernie to ensure that HRC won the nomination. The BBs refused to vote for her and many, allegedly, voted for Trump in protest.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 9:39 am
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:40 am to ChineseBandit58
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the dems had not prepared for the landslide support for Trump
Landslide? He didn't even win the popular vote, dude
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:40 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:I think not. the media made him toxic, frick they still going after him, Is he perfect hell no...He's the Apple that upset the cart, and the only one with the nuts to do it.
Take me for example
DC is cess pool of fricking thugs in ties that are robbing you and me and making USA irrelevant fact
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:42 am to ole man
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He's the Apple that upset the cart, and the only one with the nuts to do it.
DC is cess pool of fricking thugs in ties that are robbing you and me and making USA irrelevant fact
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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couldn't get any of his policies through
liar. albeit most he had to do himself.
yeah just cave to dems and GOPe like you? nah.
slow cuck pro
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:48 am to Fat Bastard
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liar. albeit most he had to do himself.
And how many of those survive today, in 2022?
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yeah just cave to dems and GOPe like you? nah.
"Caving" as opposed to constant losing?
You want to project Trump as this maven of policy but he was really a huge bitch.
Travel ban? His admin fricked it up
ACA repeal? Cucked by the worst pol in 50 years
Building the wall? A miniscule addition (that has now been rendered a waste of money)
Mexico paying for the wall?
etc.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:50 am to loogaroo
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Seems like it was planned.
That's a bad thing, that a judge planned for how to administer and adjudicate a case that was argued before him?
KL's team had since the end of the election to prepare. It's not like they woke up 2 weeks ago and thought, "frick, let's sue these assholes."
When KL filed suit, her legal team argued that they'd prove X, Y, and Z. That implies they were ready to prove X, Y, and Z. The notion that they had a few days to throw their case together is inane. And I'll say it again - as it turned out, based on how her legal team argued their case, the only chance for a revote was based on tens of thousands of disenfranchised voters due to printing/tabulating frickery. If there really was tens of thousands of voters that walked off of lines or didn't bother showing up to vote because of the printers/tabulators, this could have been proven without some Herculean effort required several weeks to prepare. And the disappointing reality is that Lake's legal team did nothing but miss on this subject matter.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
I’m not buying it. Trading one’s vote for the holy grail first female President in for the guy who was being absolutely bombarded with pussy grab gate, a lengthy list of sexual assault and harassment claims as well as “serial philandering” etc etc…..along with the standard accusations of racism, xenophobia, then throw in miscellaneous stuff like taxes and on and on and on. No way was Clinton so bad off with such a consequential number of Democrat voters that they instead opted for Trump - with all of the aforementioned “baggage.” I put quotation marks there bc it wasn’t nearly as much traditional baggage that one causes himself, but rather more so baggage manufactured by his opponents. Note, however, that I am not saying some wasn’t “earned.”
Anyhow, bottom line for me, all relevant and pertinent factors considered, I opine that Democrats for the most part circled the wagons for their candidate. This is just me, but I believe the Trump team simply outmaneuvered the Clinton team. And “outstrategized” them.
Anyhow, bottom line for me, all relevant and pertinent factors considered, I opine that Democrats for the most part circled the wagons for their candidate. This is just me, but I believe the Trump team simply outmaneuvered the Clinton team. And “outstrategized” them.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:52 am to LSUA 75
They are short-term thinkers - not very smart. It's like the stranger banging on your door in the middle of the night, so you let him in so the noise stops.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:56 am to davyjones
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Anyhow, bottom line for me, all relevant and pertinent factors considered, I opine that Democrats for the most part circled the wagons for their candidate. This is just me, but I believe the Trump team simply outmaneuvered the Clinton team. And “outstrategized” them.
I agree with a lot of this. I'm not sure Trump's strategizing wasn't simple default, but that fact is his brashness, aggressiveness and willingness to say out loud what many thought but would never say in "polite company" played well. It certainly got him a shite ton of attention at the start of his campaign that was critical and gave him an opportunity to make his views/intentions well known.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:57 am to davyjones
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Trading one’s vote for the holy grail first female President in for the guy who was being absolutely bombarded with pussy grab gate, a lengthy list of sexual assault and harassment claims as well as “serial philandering” etc etc…..along with the standard accusations of racism, xenophobia, then throw in miscellaneous stuff like taxes and on and on and on. No way was Clinton so bad off with such a consequential number of Democrat voters that they instead opted for Trump -
You're thinking of Trump with a 2020 taint and not a 2016 taint, and forgetting how the DEM party absolutely screwed over Bernie. Also you're forgetting how it became pretty much accepted in 2016 that Hillary started birtherism in 2008.
The DEM party was absolutely fractured in 2016 and the media was just doing what it does and carrying water for the party.
Also, as I said earlier, HRC STILL WON THE POPULAR VOTE. This was a razor-thin win by Trump only because of our EC system.
One last note on 2020 thinking and the EC. In 2016 the DEMs and coordinated media were caught with their pants down with respect to the 2010 project by the GOP to start working hard at the state level. They were much more aligned and had a much better strategy in 2020 after working on the state level for 4 years. With an insanely close EC victory, it only takes a little efficiency in a few key states to swing things.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
I think this was mostly about Snowden and Assange -- it made me laugh at the time.
I get where Fatty is coming from as Trump brought me to the party because no one ever said things like close the border and stop the stupid wars. So, I think there is a populist faction that isn't going away anytime soon. I just think the system has mostly crushed it. I'm not sure where to go now and am demoralized. I have some pro-union type lefty leanings, but current Dems make me sick. I will probably bow out of caring about politics for a while.
I get where Fatty is coming from as Trump brought me to the party because no one ever said things like close the border and stop the stupid wars. So, I think there is a populist faction that isn't going away anytime soon. I just think the system has mostly crushed it. I'm not sure where to go now and am demoralized. I have some pro-union type lefty leanings, but current Dems make me sick. I will probably bow out of caring about politics for a while.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:06 am to Bunk Moreland
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. I will probably bow out of caring about politics for a while.
You have to learn to compartmentalize a bunch of different levels of political analysis and just never let it become a personal identity.
Stepping away for a bit is probably best for the latter.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
I wasn’t addressing you.
You don’t need to make everything about you all the time. It’s weird.
You don’t need to make everything about you all the time. It’s weird.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:14 am to roadGator
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I wasn’t addressing you.
Cool. Take my post as a thought excerise, then.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:18 am to SlowFlowPro
No. Your inflated sense of self importance is mystifying.
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