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re: BREAKING: F.C.C. Officially Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27272 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:43 pm to
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How is this even remotely good for consumers?


It isn't. This is a stark example of why we have been saying from the beginning that Trump and his administration are shite.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:43 pm to
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it also means liberal cucks like google and facebook cant block conservative websites from appearing in your internet searches



What?

If Google buys an ISP, they can effectively block whomever they like.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9828 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:43 pm to
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Also avoid CNN, MSNBC, HuffPost, WashPost.


Better get used to those. The conspiracy blogs where most of you get your news won’t be able to match the MSM in terms of buying prioritized traffic through ISPs.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:44 pm to
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You mean like you people on this board who will love and swallow anything that has BHO's name on it?!?! There is NO similarity whatsoever, none!



Yeah, and they’re also idiots (although I don’t think there are that many on this board). The Orange God King can do no wrong for you. You’re a simpleton.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19262 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:44 pm to
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Well Porn Hub wants to keep NN in place


This should be the argument for any straight American male.
If Porn Hub likes it then so should you.

This board is made up of mostly straight American males right.......??????
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13508 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:46 pm to
Unlike you, I was simply asking if those supporting NN had read anything besides social media in formulating their opinions. I got no affirmative answers. Proves my point that there is nothing but sheer ignorance besides the assertions that the NN repeal is evil. You the 'independent' thinker have also failed to provide us with facts. I will note that I have not said if I am pro or against NN. Any assumptions you have made are simply on you.

Oh, and I never said who I voted for either. Tolerant!
Posted by HeadLightBanDit
Hernando, MS
Member since Oct 2012
1645 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:46 pm to
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This board is made up of mostly straight American males right.......??????


Nope. Just a bunch of Trump Cucks.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:46 pm to
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Remind you of how your side is triggered any time there's anything with a conservative, free market label attached? Ahhh, the hypocrisy.


There we go again with the simpleton stupidity.

Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13508 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:47 pm to
Yeah, once again ASSume away. You have no clue who I voted for!
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2598 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:47 pm to
The internet is not a right
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13508 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:48 pm to
Looks like a perfect title for pussy hat offspring. But then you know that!
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:48 pm to
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Unlike you, I was simply asking if those supporting NN had read anything besides social media in formulating their opinions. I got no affirmative answers. Proves my point that there is nothing but sheer ignorance besides the assertions that the NN repeal is evil. You the 'independent' thinker have also failed to provide us with facts. I will note that I have not said if I am pro or against NN. Any assumptions you have made are simply on you.

Oh, and I never said who I voted for either. Tolerant!


I’ve gone in mass detail about this with you and your ilk, but I would be better talking to brick wall than you.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27272 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:49 pm to
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since when has free markets and open competition ever not been good for us?


The action taken today is the opposite of a free market. What this change means is that Cox or Comcast can decide what websites they will allow you to connect to, and at what cost. They can charge more for you to contact a particular site. They can block any site they want. In other words, the ISPs do not have to be "neutral" (thus the term "net neutrality") to what you, as the end consumer, can access.

This is the end of the free market online.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 1:52 pm
Posted by digitalis
Member since Oct 2009
411 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:49 pm to
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It isn't. This is a stark example of why we have been saying from the beginning that Trump and his administration are shite.


Most places in the US have only one or two high speed internet providers. Internet access in the US is a monopoly, there is no competition. Providers have enormous leverage over consumers and content providers. And they just got the green light from Trump to bend everyone over.

Congratulations you stupid fricks, did you think Trump was truly a populist? You got played, admit it.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19262 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:50 pm to
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The internet is not a right


I'd argue differently.

The internet has almost become the sole source for speech and press.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:50 pm to
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not when there are local monopolies preventing you from entering the market place


Monopolies prevent you from entering the market place when they can generally do the following:

1. Economic barriers, like pricing out competition or providing a better service/product.
2. Physical barriers, like physically block infrastructure construction by owning the land.
3. Regulatory barriers, like NN.

Since throttling is a form of NOT pricing out competition, the big ISPs DO NOT own all the land and now their service and pricing is not protected by NN they do not have a monopoly. If I could accumulate sufficient capital and beat the big boy's price and service point it would be a worthy business venture.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:52 pm to
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Unlike you, I was simply asking if those supporting NN had read anything besides social media in formulating their opinions. I got no affirmative answers. Proves my point that there is nothing but sheer ignorance besides the assertions that the NN repeal is evil. You the 'independent' thinker have also failed to provide us with facts. I will note that I have not said if I am pro or against NN. Any assumptions you have made are simply on you.

Oh, and I never said who I voted for either. Tolerant!


I've read about both sides, and unfortunately it's either the greatest thing ever created, or one of the worst government overreaches ever. I'm not a fan of being charged differently or having slower speeds applied based on what website I want to go to.

I also have legitimate concerns about the "free market" where I'm basically stuck with Cox Digital Cable in my area. Comcast, Time Warner, and the other cable companies are so interlaced with government, it's tough for me to even argue they are free market corporations.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11177 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:52 pm to
Was talking to my dad about this, telling him we need to keep net neutrality. His response was “but isn’t that one of Obama’s policies”.

People are blind and think just because Obama did it, it has to suck. But it’s truly the best thing he did for this country, and I don’t even like the man.

Open your eyes folks!
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13508 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:52 pm to


One of the sanest and most educated posts today. Thank you! (in all seriousness)
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27272 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:54 pm to
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2. Physical barriers, like physically block infrastructure construction by owning the land.


Hey dipshit. Giving the ISPs the unlimited power to decide what websites people can connect to IS the same thing as a physical barrier. They can physically block the people connecting through their service from being able to access any website they want. That IS a monopoly power, by your own definition.
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