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re: BR “Thrive” plan vote this November. Don’t get hoodwinked. Vote NO!

Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:41 am to
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14433 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:41 am to
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So you want to punish them for good money management? Or are they poorly managed and simply flush due to tax receipts?


You should probably look into their budget, their resources and how they spend the funds before making this claim. The ROI to the general public is not there..
thusly, They receive more mileage receipts than necessary.. but continue to want more, a typical government agency..
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1714 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:42 am to
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I'm all about paying down/off debt


I'm just wondering what the "ongoing debt obligations" (mentioned in the article) are that this money will be used for? Sounds a lot like the parish once again paying city police to me. This is extremely vague language.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133683 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:29 am to
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So you want to punish them for good money management?
No, I want to "punish" them for overtaxing us every year.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24631 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:29 am to
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BR “Thrive” plan vote this November. Don’t get hoodwinked. Vote NO!



A large swath of my liberal friends appear to be opposed to it because Sid is promoting it as a "vote for this or we're doomed" type of vibe, and he's loudly talking it up as a way to fund the SG exit.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9060 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:56 am to
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Mosquito Abatement will be re-dedicated into the general fund.


I think I d rather them defund the police
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112764 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:17 am to
Funny how losing the cash cow is causing issues.

Perhaps the CITY should raise taxes in CITY property to cover the shortfall.

I am sure all of the property owners that flocked to the City before and and after the St.G. petition (disposition of afters is still up in the air) will be happy as Hell to pay higher property taxes (looking at you OLOL and BRGH, as well as MOL and L'auberge)
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69362 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:32 am to
Everyone in government is on board for this plan. The republican mayor, BRPD, BRFD, the libraries, COA, BREC, etc. This is the best way to balance the budget hole to maintain public services without using St. George as a tax colony. This is NOT a new tax.

Voting no is imbecilic. Voting no will force new taxes to pay for city services and the gutting of BRPD, BRFD, and public works.
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 11:36 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69362 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:40 am to
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No, I want to "punish" them for overtaxing us every year.


Vote “yes” and those tax dollars won’t go to overfunding those institutions anymore.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37776 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:41 am to
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You should probably look into their budget, their resources and how they spend the funds before making this claim. The ROI to the general public is not there..


I’m not claiming anything. I’m trying to ask a legit question as to whether these agencies are operating responsibly or just being propped up by endless taxes?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37776 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:44 am to
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No, I want to "punish" them for overtaxing us every year.


That I can understand, if they are mismanaging funds or the costs of these programs are simply unsustainable
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1714 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:06 pm to
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oting no will force new taxes to pay for city services and the gutting of BRPD, BRFD, and public works.


Correct. Fun fact, no BRPD cars patrol in St. George. The City of BR can figure this out.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69362 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:18 pm to
St. George relies on public works for road maintenance and drainage, though.

By voting no, you’re not just cutting off your nose to spite your face. You blame the COA, CATS, BREC, and Libraries for wasting money. You complain about being taxed too much. You argue that taxes for COA, CARS, BREC, and the libraries should go down because they’re sitting on bank accounts full of money.

So, you vote no on the initiative designed to take some of that surplus money away? I don’t understand that point of view. F$&k you for asking me to vote for what I demand? How DARE you cut the funding for the government bureaucracies I demanded you to cut funding to!?

It literally makes no sense why anyone would oppose this unless they:
a. Work for one of the agencies getting portions of their millages redirected;
b. Profit from these agencies hoarding money;
c. Don’t want to pay for road maintenance or drainage infrastructure?

I just don’t get it. Even the heads of the agencies getting cut see this as a fair enough deal to get behind it. It’s a compromise that will keep the government functioning without sacrificing essential functions that citizens rely on. Voting yes doesn’t increase your tax bill one cent.

The alternative is stupid.
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 12:20 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41866 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:25 pm to
They need to prove to me that parish wide taxes go to parish wide services.

While I applaud giving the Libraries, MARC and COA a haircut; I want the plan to indicate the extra parish wide services I will get.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41866 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:29 pm to
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This is the new reality. St. George voted to expand the bloat. I don’t blame them but the potential consequences regarding money have been well established in the lead up. Right or wrong, expecting those of us in BR to not support out best interest is naive


True

But those outside of BR need to know that BR is taking our taxes again to benefit themselves.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1714 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:31 pm to
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You argue that taxes for COA, CARS, BREC, and the libraries should go down because they’re sitting on bank accounts full of money.


Nobody wants them to "go down." They are clearly funded beyond their needs, so why can't property taxes be lowered in the future (for those allotments we all agreed on)?

Also, BR seems quite in the red here, so what is their future plan to fund these things without stealing from the dedicated coffers of the library? I'm just not understanding the legality of taking dedicated money from a parish service and throwing into the general fund. This is why St. George got traction in the first place.

To me this is saying, "Sorry we mismanaged the money on the taxes you voted for, so we'd now like you to give us carte blanche on paying for random, undisclosed things out of a general fund."
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133683 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:32 pm to
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That I can understand, if they are mismanaging funds
BREC "mismanaged" their hype to voters about how much money they need to operate by telling us parks would close putting kids on the streets if we didn't vote for higher taxes.

Instead they got the additional taxes and STILL closed all of the BREC swimming pools and the Lazy River park.

BREC is bringing in more money than it needs to operate. And they can't even keep up with their own finances. They neglect the legally required annual audit because their books are so fricked up.

They can give up a few mills of their property taxes and nobody will even notice a difference in their services.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41866 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:34 pm to
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GO COACH EDWARDS!!!


I voted Edwards too.

I’d be behind Thrive too, but I would want parish wide taxes to fund parish wide services. Sheriff, DA, Stormwater, Sewer, and to pay off parish debt.

Parish wide taxes should not go to BRPD, BRFD, City of SG, Central, etc.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133683 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:42 pm to
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Parish wide taxes should not go to BRPD, BRFD, City of SG, Central, etc.
Isn't the Thrive Plan proposal to put the transfer of taxes from the dedicated over funded agencies into the City-Parish's General Fund?
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1714 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:42 pm to
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Stormwater, Sewer


But the parish received $165 million in federal ARPA money to supposedly fix our major issues, and we also pay sewer fees with our water bill. My one home is over $100/month. Multiply that times every home and business in the parish. And isn't drainage supposed to be supported using sales instead of property taxes anyway?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41866 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:42 pm to
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The alternative is stupid.


The agencies bring cut ADMIT that they are fine reducing their millages.

The question is now what can we do with the savings.

I would support helping the DA, the Sheriff to hire more patrolmen and jail guards, and for other parish services.

IT would be stupid for me to pay BR services.
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