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re: BP and Chevron are laying off staff and relocating jobs to India.

Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57241 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:03 pm to
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When these people talk increasing "efficency" they are realling talking about increasing their profits at the expense of Americans.


Quantify the increased profits to Tesla.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
15253 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:04 pm to
Ai is coming for all those jobs anyway
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9583 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:05 pm to
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Ai is coming for all those jobs anyway


AI = Actually Indians.
Posted by FOBW
N.O.
Member since Sep 2016
429 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:14 pm to
A bbl of US oil is more profitable to these companies than any other bbl in the world.

American resources should be exploited for the benefit of Americans. We could raise the royalty rate, but that would only affect new leases. We should exclude expensing of any money spent outside the USA.

You want to make half your free cash from the GOA, use American workers to build your facilities with American steel in American fab yards.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:15 pm to
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India is the next China as far as off shoring jobs.


They’re both corrupt, but the Chinese are a lot smarter, and vastly more capable. China is a functional country, India is not.

This won’t end well for the Western companies that offshore to India
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
10445 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 8:39 pm to
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I am in the industry….the Indians are good if you provide tremendous oversight and guard rails.


The oversight and safeguards in place may work for companies like Chevron or XOM, which have a history of strong policies, well-defined processes, and solid governance. However, this will likely be a problem for BP. BP has struggled with discipline, process, and governance in the past. BP operates in an environment of chaos, constant change, and a culture where employees routinely operate outside established lines. This lack of structure is a fundamental reason BP has experienced so many significant incidents over the years and has not learned from these mistakes.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18120 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 8:49 pm to
Nothing like working with "hub" engineering teams in India. Their amazing ignorance is only surpassed by their vast arrogance.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18120 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 8:56 pm to
I've completed a couple of projects with an Elliot owned compressor company. Arrogant, ignorant fvcks caused the project to exceed the cycle time by 8 months. Worthless organization.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 8:58 pm to
Where does Chevron/BP fuel end up outside of their branded stations? I never stop at either of those because I can’t stand going to “independently owned” gas stations.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65254 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 9:12 pm to
The arrogance is astounding
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
2242 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 9:15 pm to
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Well we certainly don’t have enough homegrown engineers here anymore.


WTF!?!? It’s best not to speak of you have zero idea what you’re talking about dumbass.

We probably have the highest amount of unemployed engineers we’ve ever had. Not just in tech but in all fields because of H1B and the other visas used to manipulate this bullshite.
And our engineers are light years beyond the dot heads especially with most of their universities being fake degree mills.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18120 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:16 pm to
You have to remember...most Indian engineers never leave their cubicle. No field work, no in plant mentoring. Unless they have diligent oversight, they try and reinvent the wheel...every fvcking time.
The most frustrating projects that I have is when they are involved.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18120 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:22 pm to
I actually showed this moron where he was wrong by siting equation and text from the most relevant handbook on the topic.
He said it must be wrong. I laughed and walked out of the conference room and grabbed his American boss as I was leaving....told him I will never work on any of their projects again.
We were their only western supplier left.
This is a serious problem.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18120 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:28 pm to
Ahh, jQueef....have a big bag of dicks.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
7586 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:22 pm to
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The oversight and safeguards in place may work for companies like Chevron or XOM, which have a history of strong policies, well-defined processes, and solid governance. However, this will likely be a problem for BP. BP has struggled with discipline, process, and governance in the past. BP operates in an environment of chaos, constant change, and a culture where employees routinely operate outside established lines. This lack of structure is a fundamental reason BP has experienced so many significant incidents over the years and has not learned from these mistakes.



This guy knows what he’s talking about. Which lawsuit were you a part of?
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:29 pm to
Sounds like a lot of unproductive and overpriced labor at Chevron and BP... Where are all those no sympathy for layoff folks?

And the folks that love capitalism and free markets. Seeing ideas like taxing businesses more for being global and using the most cost effective labor. Watching people advocate for government interference or penalties to the market place is pretty revealing how much nationalism and socialism go hand in hand.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:32 pm to
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This won’t end well for the Western companies that offshore to India
you're a decade or two late on this one my man....
Posted by wheelr
Banned
Member since Jul 2012
5880 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:54 pm to
One of the majors is a customer. I recently spent weeks with their U.S. managers and the foreign IT team attempting to debug one of my programs. The IT team were quick to dismiss the issue as a vendor (me) problem. After hundreds of lost man-hours, turns out it was a time zone issue between their US and foreign servers, nothing to do with my program.

Of course this type of thing doesn't get reported through management to our executives. They are in the process of outsourcing our IT department to India too.
Posted by Dtbtiger
Member since Oct 2024
243 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:15 am to
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Working with Indian engineers is horrible. There is nothing good to say about it.

I dealt with an Indian firm here stateside. The only firm I know that works 60-70 hour weeks for 70k. Thats why it's an Indian firm. Then they outsource a bunch of their work to India anyway
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18866 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 4:38 am to
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I think India took China out as worlds largest economy.


Largest population, India did overtake UK and is now the fifth largest economy in the world.
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