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re: Boy wears dress to prom, gets butthurt that based dad questions it
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:04 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:04 pm to SammyTiger
I was t bullied. Weirdo
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:08 pm to HubbaBubba
That didn’t seem like father and son to me
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:08 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
The norm is ever changing and not quantifiable. It’s odd that you think it needs to be static and quantifiable, especially a norm regarding fashion.
At what point did it become the norm for European men to wear powdered whigs? And when exactly did that norm pass into obscurity?
The specifics of Gender norms are fluid, but the existence of gender norms is not. If a male chooses to wear the current culture’s gender norm opposite, it’s for a reason. It’s to challenge the very concept of gender norms.
That’s not surprising generally that it occurs, but we are in a strange period currently (post-modern and cultural Marxist) where people like yourself have bought into the forced narrative that there are no natural boundaries between genders - no norms.
At what point did it become the norm for European men to wear powdered whigs? And when exactly did that norm pass into obscurity?
The specifics of Gender norms are fluid, but the existence of gender norms is not. If a male chooses to wear the current culture’s gender norm opposite, it’s for a reason. It’s to challenge the very concept of gender norms.
That’s not surprising generally that it occurs, but we are in a strange period currently (post-modern and cultural Marxist) where people like yourself have bought into the forced narrative that there are no natural boundaries between genders - no norms.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:08 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
I don’t think you understand anything I just posted?
I took a big risk then, but it was no risk in my mind and kicked that glass door down.
Race and gaydom are not symbiotic principles.
In fact if you are gay then go together. Nobody gives a frick now?
This clown is an attention whore nothing more.
If you can’t get a date you shouldn’t be there anyway.
Or the Marine Corps Ball.
Now frick off...
I took a big risk then, but it was no risk in my mind and kicked that glass door down.
Race and gaydom are not symbiotic principles.
In fact if you are gay then go together. Nobody gives a frick now?
This clown is an attention whore nothing more.
If you can’t get a date you shouldn’t be there anyway.
Or the Marine Corps Ball.
Now frick off...
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:10 pm to LordSaintly
quote:
That didn’t seem like father and son to me
Was he fired from the company or just fired from being CEO?
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:13 pm to Jimbeaux
quote:Poor strawman.
The norm is ever changing and not quantifiable. It’s odd that you think it needs to be static and quantifiable, especially a norm regarding fashion.
At what point did it become the norm for European men to wear powdered whigs? And when exactly did that norm pass into obscurity?
The specifics of Gender norms are fluid, but the existence of gender norms is not. If a male chooses to wear the current culture’s gender norm opposite, it’s for a reason. It’s to challenge the very concept of gender norms.
That’s not surprising generally that it occurs, but we are in a strange period currently (post-modern and cultural Marxist) where people like yourself have bought into the forced narrative that there are no natural boundaries between genders - no norms.
I didn't say it needed to be static or based on this or based on that.
Go back and reread my post.
I was asking you how you could quantify it. Then I followed up with an example - is it based on numbers like a majority or a prevalence.
You still haven't answered it, and maybe you can't. Maybe there's no good answer.
But all of this seems contradictory, because how can one know what "the norm" is if you can't define it? And if you can't define it, how can you use it as some sort of standard?
I assure you that when you go to the hospital and the doctor is trying to figure out how to save your life, the dose of the medicine used to keep you alive is rooted in some sort of measurement.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:14 pm to Jimbeaux
quote:
Humans simply could not function if there weren’t social norms in which we operate. Yes, the norms are constantly evolving within each culture, but there are natural parameters which act as guideposts to those changes.
Good Lord, some kid wore a dress to prom. Its not the downfall of civilization.That should at most elicit an eye roll from an adult, especially one that is not in any way involved in the event.
During the 80s a lot of our pop culture icons looked liked this
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:14 pm to triceratops
It’s a damn shame that grown men don’t recognize the world they now live in. You can think it, you can say it, but if you get filmed or caught...you are gonna get cancelled. It sucks, it shouldn’t be, we have to find a way to reverse it, but another person “fricked around and found out”. God bless this man and I hope he lands on his feet. No one should be fired for this type thing.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:14 pm to Jimbeaux
Don’t say we were the most free society in history while literally advocating for forced conformity.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:15 pm to BarberitosDawg
quote:Maybe you didn't understand what I posted. I was asking you why an interracial couple was "not the norm". Then I asked another question where the roles were reversed.
I don’t think you understand anything I just posted?
I took a big risk then, but it was no risk in my mind and kicked that glass door down.
Race and gaydom are not symbiotic principles.
In fact if you are gay then go together. Nobody gives a frick now?
This clown is an attention whore nothing more.
If you can’t get a date you shouldn’t be there anyway.
Or the Marine Corps Ball.
Now frick off...
Not sure why you got so offended.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:17 pm to NPComb
Visuwell had better clench its buttocks.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:17 pm to roadGator
quote:
I was t bullied. Weirdo
Sure
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:21 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:
You still haven't answered it, and maybe you can't. Maybe there's no good answer.
No. It’s not quantifiable. That’s my answer. I thought I made that clear. Furthermore, it’s irrelevant.
quote:
But all of this seems contradictory, because how can one know what "the norm" is if you can't define it? And if you can't define it, how can you use it as some sort of standard?
We are in constant search for “the norm”. It’s mostly what makes us nervous to be around other people, to go out on dates, to speak in public. It’s not something to be fully grasped. That doesn’t mean we don’t obsess over it or, depending on the situation, rail against it.
But sometimes, the counter-cultural statement is loud and clear. A boy wearing a dress to prom remains as strong of a counter-cultural statement as ever. IT IS THE VERY PURPOSE. How do you not see that?
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:22 pm to Jimbeaux
quote:False!
The norm is ever changing and not quantifiable.
the national norm relates to achievement, potential defense, and stability. The little boy bitch checks not a single box in that list.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:28 pm to ThuperThumpin
quote:
Good Lord, some kid wore a dress to prom. Its not the downfall of civilization.That should at most elicit an eye roll from an adult, especially one that is not in any way involved in the event.
I agree with you. And a normie adult male having a reaction to it is also pretty typical.
Except in the current zeitgeist of cancel culture, that dad is possibly facing a huge penalty for his actions, while the dress wearing boy will be celebrated. That’s different. That’s a sign that we are in upside down world.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:29 pm to Jimbeaux
quote:Well it can't be irrelevant, otherwise you wouldn't use it. A fighter's favorite color isn't really relevant, so it's not a metric that you see on the tale of the tape.
No. It’s not quantifiable. That’s my answer. I thought I made that clear. Furthermore, it’s irrelevant.
quote:I didn't say that it should or shouldn't be an acceptable form of attire. I've just been curious how/why you can use a term like "the norm" but be wholly unable to describe how it's derived.
We are in constant search for “the norm”. It’s mostly what makes us nervous to be around other people, to go out on dates, to speak in public. It’s not something to be fully grasped. That doesn’t mean we don’t obsess over it or, depending on the situation, rail against it.
But sometimes, the counter-cultural statement is loud and clear. A boy wearing a dress to prom remains as strong of a counter-cultural statement as ever. IT IS THE VERY PURPOSE. How do you not see that?
Would you say that tattoos on one's face is not the norm? If that answer is yes, then do you go about hassling young black males in the mall or gas station or wherever? If that answer is yes, then you're a liar. If the answer is no, then you seem a little hypocritical.
So just because something is outside the norm, in no way justifies dickish behavior.
That's being a Karen.
That poor, disturbed boy wasn't breaking any laws or preventing anyone from enjoying their evening. But because "iTs NoT tHe NoRm" this other frickstick has to come through and show his arse.
He's a Karen. An unemployed Karen, it looks like.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:31 pm to SammyTiger
Sammy Tiger knows it all. Ask him.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:35 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
Let’s take this to one more example for posterity:
The kid wanted to wear a dress.
It’s Prom.
Why didn’t he do like the other girls and go full out and become a girl for that night?
The other ladies on that special night spent God knows how many hours fixing themselves up for that special night right?
He chose to demean all of them by being a little crap turd.
He just threw on a dress he found at goodwill and didn’t even make an attempt to look like a girl.
He’s making an internet tic tok political statement.
Lot of views!
If my daughter was at that Prom I wouldn’t have given him the time of day or said shite.
Clown world!
The kid wanted to wear a dress.
It’s Prom.
Why didn’t he do like the other girls and go full out and become a girl for that night?
The other ladies on that special night spent God knows how many hours fixing themselves up for that special night right?
He chose to demean all of them by being a little crap turd.
He just threw on a dress he found at goodwill and didn’t even make an attempt to look like a girl.
He’s making an internet tic tok political statement.
Lot of views!
If my daughter was at that Prom I wouldn’t have given him the time of day or said shite.
Clown world!
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:36 pm to hogcard1964
quote:
What did he do except chuckle at the freak?
He followed him and continued to harass him? Do you think adults should do that when teens make decisions they disagree with or think is ridiculous?
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:41 pm to BarberitosDawg
quote:I agree, I don't particularly agree with his approach. I think the adult should have let it roll off of his back instead of inserting himself into a situation that had nothing to do with him.
Let’s take this to one more example for posterity:
The kid wanted to wear a dress.
It’s Prom.
Why didn’t he do like the other girls and go full out and become a girl for that night?
The other ladies on that special night spent God knows how many hours fixing themselves up for that special night right?
He chose to demean all of them by being a little crap turd.
He just threw on a dress he found at goodwill and didn’t even make an attempt to look like a girl.
He’s making an internet tic tok political statement.
Lot of views!
If my daughter was at that Prom I wouldn’t have given him the time of day or said shite.
Clown world!
Hell, if his HS was anything like mine someone would have knocked him on his arse at some point during the night anyway.
The kid was the first a-hole. The adult was the bigger a-hole.
I'm sure you'd not appreciate someone following you around and getting in your face for no real reason at all.
I'm saying that doing it in the name of "the norm" is Karen shite. We've already established that the norm cannot be defined, so homeboy right here decided to go full send on his career in the name of "the norm."
That's the real clown world.
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