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re: Boy scouts allow gays & gals; lied for pervs, lose half of membership, now face bankruptcy
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:37 am to BIGJLAW
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:37 am to BIGJLAW
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If anyone didnt see this happening when the Boy Scouts caved they had their eyes shut.
True. It just bought them time. If they stood their ground they wouldve been ruined immediately in the media. They just kicked the can down the road to ultimate demise. I wish we could just succeed California and give it to all libs. Go live there and do what you want and leave the majority alone who just want to live free and apart from this nonsense.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:58 am to bamarep
I'll get downvoted for this, but I don't think allowing gay scouts was their undoing. Caving to special interests is what was their undoing. They completely changed their identity and how they operated to appease the SJWs.
Allowing girls and changing their name was a real head scratcher and the final nail in the coffin.
Allowing girls and changing their name was a real head scratcher and the final nail in the coffin.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:59 am to bamarep
quote:Is that a problem?
allowing openly gay scouts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:03 pm to Big Scrub TX
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s that a problem?
With me? Heck no. I could give two shits.
But with parents with young boys that want them to be around other LIKE MINDED boys and men to help shape their lives; yeah, it appears to be a big fricking problem since their membership is HALF of what it was before homos were allowed.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:03 pm to cokebottleag
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I was an eagle scout and so were all my brothers.
My son will not be joining boy scouts. We're going to look at some of the faith based alternatives, or just do camping alon
I was a Life scout, but got interesting in other things - never reaching for Eagle status.
But I loved scouting - encouraged everyone in my family to participate. Now, it seems to be too beholden to SJW directives - not a place for bedrock citizenship training anymore.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:09 pm to rattlebucket
As an Assistant Scout Master that has been with the program for a while this is very frustrating an disheartening. The BSA has been in a non-win situation for a while now with both sides forcing the BSA in a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation. The the liberal activist have been forcing the BSA to allow gay scout leaders, gay scouts, and now trans-kids into the program with the media assault and lawsuits...then the conservative side can't stand that and are pulling in the opposite direction...
What you have is organizations like Trail Life USA which is comprised of separatist from the BSA that started a male only Christian base scouting program and the Mormons completely pulled out forcing the BSA to create a Kindergarten level in Cub Scouts which is too you @ 5 Years old and now inviting girls to participate in the program to recover lost numbers.
My son just put on Star rank which is 2 away from Eagle Scout. I hope the BSA is around to finish. Fortunately our Troop is still traditional and that won't charge with our Charter Sponsor.
Such a very sad time. I really love the lessons that scouting teaches boys..especially nowadays where younger parents are not as involved in their kids lives as they used to be and disconnected these kids have become with learning some of the most basic abilities of how to take care of themselves an how to deal with challenges when there is no technology around.
What you have is organizations like Trail Life USA which is comprised of separatist from the BSA that started a male only Christian base scouting program and the Mormons completely pulled out forcing the BSA to create a Kindergarten level in Cub Scouts which is too you @ 5 Years old and now inviting girls to participate in the program to recover lost numbers.
My son just put on Star rank which is 2 away from Eagle Scout. I hope the BSA is around to finish. Fortunately our Troop is still traditional and that won't charge with our Charter Sponsor.
Such a very sad time. I really love the lessons that scouting teaches boys..especially nowadays where younger parents are not as involved in their kids lives as they used to be and disconnected these kids have become with learning some of the most basic abilities of how to take care of themselves an how to deal with challenges when there is no technology around.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:11 pm to cokebottleag
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cokebottleag
An Aggie saying a boys group is too gay??
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:11 pm to bamarep
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But with parents with young boys that want them to be around other LIKE MINDED boys and men to help shape their lives; yeah, it appears to be a big fricking problem since their membership is HALF of what it was before homos were allowed.
I equate this to Obama stepping in shite when he started all the transgender/bathroom bullshite. No one gave a shite before he pushed the topic into the limelight.
Same thing with gay scouts in scouting. Who was talking about this before they made it an issue?
I was a boy scout. I'm gay. I know it was different times, but I didn't have any agenda -- I was a boy who liked doing regular things boys liked to do. Camping, building things, learning how to compete and work with others to achieve goals, how to be an upstanding young man. I was like minded with my other scout friends in every way.
It seems to me Boy Scouts stepped in their own shite by making this an issue and it shouldn't have been. If you want to be a boy scout and you are a boy, you are welcome, but you must adhere to their ideals, goals, and program. If you have any agenda other than what they set forth, you leave.
Their problem is they changed themselves to suit the wants of others. Sad.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:21 pm to bamarep
I think it all went down hill when they allowed gay scoutmolesters
Gay men just can’t control themselves it seems
Gay men just can’t control themselves it seems
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:22 pm to bamarep
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it appears to be a big fricking problem since their membership is HALF of what it was before homos were allowed.
Membership has been declining for a long time... long before the decision to formally allow gay scouts was made. (they were never banned... it was more of a don't ask don't tell thing).
But yes... a lot of people (some of whom post on this board) believe that they don't want any diversity of ideas or lifestyle, they want their kids only around other kids who are like them.
Whether's it's the scouts, travel ball, or private school. All the same thing.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:22 pm to bamarep
The Boy Scouts has been a Homosexual organization from the very beginning.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:26 pm to bamarep
It’s too bad, I’m an Eagle Scout from the 90’s, and I can tell while it wasn’t perfect, I have many fond memories and it actually molded me from a boy into the man I am now.
Hopefully they will be able to salvage what is left.
Hopefully they will be able to salvage what is left.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:27 pm to Big Scrub TX
Should foxes be allowed in henhouses?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:28 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Membership has been declining for a long time... long before the decision to formally allow gay scouts was made. (they were never banned... it was more of a don't ask don't tell thing).
It's not just being a Gay Leader, it was about being openly gay, letting the world knowing the leaders is gay and the activists essentially forcing the BSA to accept and condone or else....which happened.
It's not the gay leaders or scouts that are the problem . The real deviants are the the straight people that in public project the "good guy" image but the reality is they are pedophiles....
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:29 pm to bamarep
What's unfortunate is that the chapters that I was involved with along with my son (Cub Scouts, mostly) were great for the kids and taught them a lot of things as well as helping my son to socialize with other kids and learn how to work with others. The chapters I was involved with were very heavy on parental involvement. It's a shame though. The goals of the organization were very worthwhile for young men.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:31 pm to TheFonz
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"A member of an elite paramilitary organization: Eagle Scout."
It sounds crazy to say this but there is actually a lot of truth to that. At least coming up through the ranks in the 90s it was like that, campouts at military bases, instruction from Army rangers, ropes courses, high powered rifle range, etc. in addition to all the routine outdoorsman activity you might expect.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:33 pm to el Gaucho
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Should foxes be allowed in henhouses?
Not all gays are foxes, and some straight men are foxes. Do we ban all straight men from roles of leadership and mentoring of kids because some can't control themselves, too?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:38 pm to ibldprplgld
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Not all gays are foxes, and some straight men are foxes. Do we ban all straight men from roles of leadership and mentoring of kids because some can't control themselves, too?
I'm going to down vote you because moral equivalency BSers are as big a problem than the 1% that are actually fudge packers.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:39 pm to ibldprplgld
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Not all gays are foxes, and some straight men are foxes. Do we ban all straight men from roles of leadership and mentoring of kids because some can't control themselves, too?
Most people who have negative views on scouting have no idea what the program is about. They take the soundbites they hear on TV and form an opinion based on something they know very little about.
In the Cub Scouts, those little guys have no idea what the hell these adult topics are about and just want to play...The Boy Scouts just want to enjoy the time learning and doing scout skills, fellowship with each other and eat, eat,eat...
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:40 pm to cokebottleag
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My son will not be joining boy scouts. We're going to look at some of the faith based alternatives, or just do camping alone.
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