re: Boy Crisis of 2025, Meet the ‘Boy Problem’ of the 1900s

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Why don’t men raise boys?

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All data says that all children are better off raised by a single father instead of single mother, but the matriarchy doesn't desire it so it allows women to raise children in a single parent household even though all data says that is flawed.

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Parents must be present to a mistreat a child. That explains why marginally more women commit these crimes despite significantly more women raising their children than men do

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Way more than marginal. It also matters not if father is in the picture or not. Women kill way more kids. Women also kill their spouse at an alarmingly higher rate.

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Nope. I only feared men

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Your sexist thoughts put you in much greater danger.

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Blaming men for what?

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Please say you didn't call the man deadhead yet not the woman.

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Somebody has been listening to Andrew Wilson. There are some things I really agree with him on. His whole "rights are force" thing is not one of them. Rights are not force. They are the result of force.

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You don't understand what he's saying if you think he really believes that rights are force.

Andrew is a Christian. Almost everyone he debates is not. He takes the position that rights are force because he knows that his opponent cannot logically evade that conclusion since they are coming from a morally relative worldview.

But he personally believes that rights are from God.

When he's arguing the above, he's making an internal critique.

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But this does not mean we cannot live in a martriarchy.

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Sure we can. If we allow ourselves to. But it's only because we've decided to. Women cannot subjugate men against our will. We have to be compliant.

I can allow my children to rule my household and make all the decisions—what we eat for dinner, whether we get a pet, where we go for vacation, whether they are going to do their homework or not (and understand, some parents do this). But if that's the situation, I'm allowing that. They can't overpower me to make it happen. I can overpower them to exert my will over them.

That's the point. Men can overpower women. Women cannot overpower men. Even in your discussion of authority, no one was afraid of what women would do if the perceived authority was disobeyed.

They were afraid of the male guards who would come get them and hang them.

So again, if we "live in a matriarchy" it's only because we've allowed it.

So I'm not sure how meaningful it is to call it a matriarchy. You can if you want. I just think it's a distinction without a difference. If I let me kids rule the household, I'm still in charge. I'm still the only one who can take power. I'm just letting them use all the power and make all the decisions.

Especially since when women have occupied top positions of power—as you pointed out—they've generally tended to be just as authoritative/oppressive, if not more so, than men.

Which is what I was trying to get She Who Lies to understand, but she is too thick (I think intentionally). Power erases gender concerns. The Ruling Class will act in deference to their status as the Ruling Class, not their status as male or female. The 1% acts in the interest of the 1%, not in the interest of men or women.

Therefore it is pretty much meaningless what the gender makeup pf Congress is or whether the richest people in the world are men or women.

It's a Red Herring.

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Men occupy 99% of the dangerous and physically exhausting jobs that keep our infrastructure operating

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Indeed.

Women will find out that "work" isnt limited to HR, marketing, teaching and nursing.

Lets see that all female roofing crew.

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Andrew is a Christian. 

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Yeah, I saw him shut down a humanist in less than 5 min. Moral relativism is flawed and he knew exactly how to shut any argument from that viewpoint down before it even started.

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Almost everyone he debates is not. He takes the position that rights are force because he knows that his opponent cannot logically evade that conclusion since they are coming from a morally relative worldview

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Interesting. I have just seen snippets, but never dove into his reasoning behind his argument choices on it.

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Sure we can. If we allow ourselves to. But it's only because we've decided to. Women cannot subjugate men against our will. We have to be compliant

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That is exactly where human nature and Legitimacy or Authority come into play. Sure, we all allow it. We are wired to allow legitimate authority. That whole herd animal thing.

Not nearly all Germans were evil in WWII, but they felt the authority present at the time was legitimate so many committed evil acts. Milgram, along with many others studied that exact behavior.

Even mothers would never be able to handle teen sons if we didn't feel that legitimacy of authority.

Bottom line, I agree with you, but it is much harder to overcome than just saying "us men will no longer take this treatment". We also have to overcome our feelings of authority.

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Plenty of gays hurt children so we should take away your lesbian friends kids.

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Since plenty of people hurt children, who would be allowed to raise kids using this logic?

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All of the men abusing boyscouts were gay.

Right?

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I have no idea, but that seems plausible.

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I’m late to the discussion, but I have an opinion on this. This started when we stopped spanking kids. When we stopped letting to young boys “fight it out” to settle differences. When we tried to remove aggression from conflict resolution. When we removed bullying.

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The way to keep boy from killing themselves is to bully them and spank them?

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You desperately need to believe men and women are competing against each other

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No, not at all.

Just in the shadows of the feminist "toxic masculinity" propaganda fest, its good to remind women that they can be strong and independent as long as there are men behind the scenes doing work.

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NFL, MLB, NBA,

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All three have been inclusive to women through coaching and officiating……you can’t bullshite the actual athleticism

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This started when we stopped spanking kids. When we stopped letting to young boys “fight it out” to settle differences. When we tried to remove aggression from conflict resolution. When we removed bullying.
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The way to keep boy from killing themselves is to bully them and spank them?

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We've had this discussion before.
Boys and girls are different.
Men and women are different
-- mentally, rationally, emotionally, and physically --

Girls use words in their conflicts. They can be unbelievably cruel in those interfaces. Demanding that boys settle conflicts in that way is an ill-suited battlefield for them. To further the problem, an unnatural extension is added with the #BelieveHer BS. Expecting and indoctrinating boys/men to operate in those terms is a dangerous game.

It is very much analogous to the antithetical, and equally wrong, 1960's Sean Connery attitude that if men "have tried everything else, and women are pretty good at this, that they can’t leave it alone. They don’t… they want to have the last word, and you give them the last word. But they’re not happy with the last word. They want to say it again, and get into a really provocative situation. Then I think it’s absolutely right" to give them an open-handed slap ( LINK). That becomes an ill-suited battlefield for women.

As with most issues, the truth lies somewhere in between as Connery later clarified.

But forcing men to deal with the world entirely on women's terms can absolutely lead to male depression, or worse.