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re: Both sides have rested their case in Trump trial...jury now dismissed for a week

Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:52 am to
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
39520 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:52 am to
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This is extremely bizarre
its not in any way bizarre
-the case has been quiet on wednesdays while the judge handles other cases (tomorrow is wednesday)
-the attorneys for both sides have told the judge that closings/summations will be lengthy
-after closings, the judge has to issue instructions
-monday is a holiday

thus, court reconvenes on tuesday with closing arguments and the case will go to the jury before the end of the week
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63756 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:53 am to
Taxes don't matter to him, but Trump not speaking in his own defense at a trial that failed to produce any evidence of a crime for which a defense is necessary matters to him a great deal.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
10781 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:58 am to
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but what changed his mind about "ready & willing to tell the truth?" or was all that just bullshite?



He doesn't have to say anything. There's no case.
Posted by IdahoTiger
San Diego, CA
Member since Dec 2007
1871 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:00 pm to
I can’t wait to see the melt on here after the guilty verdict is announced.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19754 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:01 pm to
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Most of these jurors get their news from the MSM, and despite being instructed not to watch any news, some will. The MSM have their marching orders.


That actually might not be a bad thing with even CNN saying how bad Cohen's testimony was for the State.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
20584 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:02 pm to
Why is that?
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2605 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:03 pm to
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I can’t wait to see the melt on here after the guilty verdict is announced.


I mean everyone is expecting a guilty verdict even though it is clearly apparent that he is innocent. Will not cause a melt for me. He will appeal and then it will be squashed. Simple as that.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49202 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:03 pm to
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yes i read it but i didnt right it, nor was i personally involved with the decision to seek the indictment, nor was i on the grand jury who issued the indictment. NYAG charges the defendant with multiple counts of violating penal law 175.10, which is a misdemeanor. they have elected to elevate those charges to felonies via an alleged conspiracy to illegally influence the 2016 election thru campaign finance fraud. so yes, trump has been told what he's accused of


Right. Cite the felony. That’s the entire point. Dummy.

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not really, i have managed to protect myself just fine via legal means. i pay only what i am required to pay and otherwise cannot avoid

You are aware if you pay income taxes at all, who was President mattered in 2016, right? Do you have an estate tax problem? Do you pay gains? All of that mattered.

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by the way, if donald had any sense whatsoever, he'd had have offered to plead down this case to the misdemeanors,


He committed no crime. At least no evidence of a crime was submitted. You’re applauding a corrupt judicial system and political prosecution. Disgusting.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49202 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:04 pm to
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its not in any way bizarre


How many criminal trials have you litigated? How many of them had a week off in the middle of it?

Im going to guess you are once again opining from a place of complete ignorance.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 12:09 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49202 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:05 pm to
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I can’t wait to see the melt on here after the guilty verdict is announced.


You applaud weaponization of the judicial system against political opponents because you want to see melts? Holy shite. How vapid.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 12:08 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
24089 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:21 pm to
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Further, the Defense still doesn't even know what crimes they're going to actually try to get him on

If the defense is actually saying this in the media, they are lying.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8615 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:26 pm to
For a week?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49202 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:26 pm to
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If the defense is actually saying this in the media, they are lying.


What is the underlying crime the prosecution presented?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
24089 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:26 pm to
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How many criminal trials have you litigated? How many of them had a week off in the middle of it?

I know of one case in federal court in Lafayette where they took two breaks of at least a month each. That was very unusual, but the case kept running over the allotted time.

As for this case, they already don’t work Wednesday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. That leaves Thursday and Friday for motions and jury instructions. It’s really only a two day break. I can see the court taking the two days and breaking early on the Friday. Since this is a holiday weekend, this isn’t nearly as odd as the posters in this thread seems to have been mislead to believe
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14955 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:27 pm to
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I can’t wait to see the melt on here after the guilty verdict is announced.


That's not the melt.

The real melt happens when this shite isn't overturned on appeal.

Our Poli-board legal scholars are just convinced there's one reversible error after another here and once it reaches the appellate level, not only will justice be served but the prosecutor will be brought up on charges of misconduct and the judge will be removed from the bench.

Now if or when none of that shite happens, then you'll see a melt, and when I say melt I mean Chernobyl style full nuclear meltdown, the likes of which we've never seen.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 12:28 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
24089 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:28 pm to
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What is the underlying crime the prosecution presented?

I’m not the defense lawyer. Ask them. But you can’t get to the close of evidence at a criminal trial without having a copy of the charge or indictment. The suggestion that they don’t know is horse shite.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49202 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:28 pm to
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know of one case in federal court in Lafayette where they took two breaks of at least a month each. That was very unusual, but the case kept running over the allotted time. As for this case, they already don’t work Wednesday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. That leaves Thursday and Friday for motions and jury instructions. It’s really only a two day break. I can see the court taking the two days and breaking early on the Friday. Since this is a holiday weekend, this isn’t nearly as odd as the posters in this thread seems to have been mislead to believe


So you only know if one case (and it’s federal) that took breaks this long. You admit that is unusual. Yet you claim the break here isn’t unusual?

It’s different. I get it.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Member since Aug 2006
50354 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:29 pm to
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Jury deliberation probably takes all of about 3 minutes if the judge’s instructions are as expected


FIFY
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49202 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:29 pm to
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I’m not the defense lawyer. Ask them. But you can’t get to the close of evidence at a criminal trial without having a copy of the charge or indictment. The suggestion that they don’t know is horse shite.


That is the entire point. The judge ruled they did not have to name the underlying crime they are relying upon to charge the felony. You were not aware of that, yet feel just fine opining from a place of complete ignorance, because of your political beliefs. You should be disgusted with this joke of a trial that is purely politically motivated. You aren’t. Instead you support it. You’re a fascist.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57767 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Jury deliberation probably takes all of about 3 hours if the judge’s instructions are as expected.



"You have exactly 3 hours to find the defendant, Donald John Trump, guilty as charged or you will never again see your families."
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