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re: Bodycam from Crooks roof
Posted on 7/23/24 at 10:43 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 7/23/24 at 10:43 pm to Chad504boy
Doesn’t seem to explain the first shot and the line it follows.
Who knows.
Who knows.
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Posted on 7/23/24 at 10:53 pm to the808bass
No it does. It is my theory. I just put other things together. These screen shots off my video I’ve been posting. These pics are screenshots right after the first 3 shots. Convenient video stoppage right before next shots fired, it panned to 3rd window right after final shot
Posted on 7/23/24 at 10:59 pm to Bass Tiger
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There will be an investigation.
We don’t yet have a motive.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 11:05 pm to Chad504boy
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I literally have video of police on guard by an exterior window on radio and ducking going past the window. I also have video of officers going down the way w a person alerting him about something that appears to be window level. Officer never looks upwards to roof.
Can you pls link those
Posted on 7/23/24 at 11:08 pm to idlewatcher
You need to look at my last anchored thread.
Review the white dress video in tweet. Where my Still frames of what I believe 3rd window fricking open. Real convenient stopping of that video too before 2nd volley
Review the ramming fence video w officer on guard by building window. I know I have that in an old thread I started
Review the white dress video in tweet. Where my Still frames of what I believe 3rd window fricking open. Real convenient stopping of that video too before 2nd volley
Review the ramming fence video w officer on guard by building window. I know I have that in an old thread I started
This post was edited on 7/23/24 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 7/23/24 at 11:14 pm to Chad504boy
Cool ty
Posted on 7/23/24 at 11:59 pm to Chad504boy
quote:. Not for me. In reference to the live video of when Trump was speaking, first three shots were aimed, dude thought he’d either killed or missed and began spraying the crowd with the next 5 shots, first sniper shot ended it.
Still confusion about audio of shots.
Entry-exit on shooter looks to be in line with flat trajectory shot (from police sniper) as crooks had his head on the rifle (sighting/firing).
Posted on 7/24/24 at 12:14 am to White Bear
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Not for me. In reference to the live video of when Trump was speaking, first three shots were aimed, dude thought he’d either killed or missed and began spraying the crowd with the next 5 shots, first sniper shot ended it. Entry-exit on shooter looks to be in line with flat trajectory shot (from police sniper) as crooks had his head on the rifle (sighting/firing).
That explains nothing. Person on roof can’t change his rifle sound. I have the only logical answer.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 4:47 am to White Bear
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In reference to the live video of when Trump was speaking, first three shots were aimed, dude thought he’d either killed or missed and began spraying the crowd with the next 5 shots, first sniper shot ended it.
Entry-exit on shooter looks to be in line with flat trajectory shot (from police sniper) as crooks had his head on the rifle (sighting/firing).
I’m here as well, after listening to Trump microphone.
LINK
Sorry, but shots 1-3 and 4-8 sound exactly the same. Since 1-3 sound measured and paced, and 4-8 are clearly unaided and spraying, I’m willing to entertain the possibility that there could have been two people firing a similar weapon from a similar distance from that microphone.
Mortensens audio conclusions are muddied by him using two audio points. The most compelling evidence out there that there is more to the story that Crooks is Mortensens trajectory evidence of shot 1, that traveled in a line for Crooks to Trump to the man South of Trump, who took a bullet in the chest. That man was in the upper row, and that’s not a straight line. I don’t see how that is possible unless the ridge line is lower, in elevation, than Trump.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 5:03 am to Proximo
Keep in mind, that rooftop, the one everyone is walking around on, is the rooftop deemed by Cheatle as too steep to risk Secret Service sniper placement
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:29 am to OccamsStubble
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I don’t see how that is possible unless the ridge line is lower, in elevation, than Trump.
It’s not.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:32 am to OccamsStubble
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The most compelling evidence out there that there is more to the story that Crooks is Mortensens trajectory evidence of shot 1, that traveled in a line for Crooks to Trump to the man South of Trump
Cullen thinks shot one missed the snipers on the roof and traveled roughly along the back row of the bleachers. The video evidence seems to lend some credence.
He was on the Dark Horse podcast.
I think he makes too much of the water tower video, though.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:27 am to the808bass
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I don’t see how that is possible unless the ridge line is lower, in elevation, than Trump.
It’s not.
I looked for an online topo of the area, but struck out. Seems from the footage that Crooks was on a two story metal building, severely sloped at (call it) 5%. Typical construction would be, at minimum, floor to floor of 12 ft/floor, 8" slab second floor. I'll assume building is 80 ft wide overall. Assume the building is built up two feet from grade for drainage away from structure (to include slab depth).
In CADD, that's puts Crooks muzzle at 28'-8" above ground.
IF Trump's ear is 12 feet above ground (Trump's height plus stage height), and there is NO difference between the ground level between the building pad and the stage, then Crooks is shooting downward at a target 16'-8" below his muzzle elevation. This is not the case - we know the building is somewhat lower than ground level at stage, but we don't know that Crooks, on the ridge line, is higher or lower than Trump - we don't know if the shot requires Crooks to aim down, level, or up.
IF Crooks was shooting in a straight line from muzzle to Trump's ear, then what would the ground level elevation difference need to be, from building ground level to stage ground level?
16'-8". Ignoring slight .223 drop over 140 yards, a bullet fired in a horizontal line hits Trump and hits someone behind him at the same elevation, in row 3. Instead, bullet hit someone in row 12, standing up, in the chest, about 78 inches higher than Trump's ear.
IF Crooks was shooting from the ridge line, 140 yards away, and hit Trumps ear and the man behind Trump 100 feet away and 78 inches higher than Trump's ear, then Crooks would have to have been aiming up, not horizontally, and not down. To make this shot, Crooks would be aiming at a target 7'-2" above his ridgeline location. Does it seem like Crooks would have been aiming up at a target 7'-2" higher than he was?
The math sure seems to work better if Crooks is much lower.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:53 am to OccamsStubble
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I looked for an online topo of the area, but struck out.
The ground at the building is approximately the same elevation as the ground of the rally.
I think the building is closer to 40-45 feet wide than 80. So 20-23’ from eave to ridge.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:02 am to Proximo
Was the guy in the suit wanting to detain the supporters taking video? Why not detain them shooter instead of letting him get off some shots first .
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:11 am to the808bass
If Crooks is 6 ft tall, that building is closer to 80 feet on the short dimension than 40 ft
and ground level at the two-story building looks to be lower than ground level near the stage
This post was edited on 7/24/24 at 8:57 am
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:13 am to OccamsStubble
Does anyone know when and by whom this photo was taken?
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:18 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Does anyone know when and by whom this photo was taken?
It showed up Sunday, don't know photographer. Can't confirm when, obviously post shooting, no one investigating area, so ??
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:23 am to texag7
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Suit guy is sketch
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:28 am to OccamsStubble
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Does anyone know when and by whom this photo was taken?
It showed up Sunday, don't know photographer. Can't confirm when, obviously post shooting, no one investigating area, so ??
Looks like a vantage point from the damn water tower
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