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Bloomberg - A Million Simulations Shows US Debt Danger.

Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:23 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53129 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:23 am

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Now, fresh analysis from Bloomberg Economics offers a sobering perspective. Throw in a whole bunch of different potential combinations of economic variables — some 1 million of them — and 88% of the time, the results show that the debt-to-GDP ratio is on an unsustainable path.

What’s unsustainable? The initial definition is one that sees the ratio go higher over the coming decade than the 97% figure recorded for last year, which was almost double where things were as recently as 2009.

And why is this issue pressing now? Concerns are escalating because the US has now logged years worth of solid growth, with the job market effectively at full employment. And yet the official Congressional Budget Office projections show the debt-to-GDP ratio hitting 116% in 2034 — an all-time high.

BlackRock CEO Larry Fink said last week that the US public debt situation “is more urgent than I can ever remember.” On Monday, Citadel founder Ken Griffin told investors in a letter to the hedge fund’s investors that US national debt is a “growing concern that cannot be overlooked.”

And recall Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell weighed in in unusual fashion earlier this year with his admonition that “it’s probably time, or past time” for politicians to address the fiscal situation.

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Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57429 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:24 am to
no shite....
Posted by Big Gorilla
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2020
5452 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:26 am to
quote:

no shite....


Yeah my thoughts exactly. You can see it with people going out to eat that really shouldn’t 3-4 times a week. Then buy trucks they can’t afford and a house way out of their pay grade. It’s obviously a problem.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5299 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:37 am to
Seems like the only people not concerned with the debt, are the people who's job it is to be concerned about the debt.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
911 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:42 am to
File in the "no shite" column.

As for the "ran a million forecast simulations", I assume this is a poorly written way of saying they ran a Monte Carlo simulation out to 1,000,000 iterations.

quote:

Throw in a whole bunch of different potential combinations of economic variables — some 1 million of them — and 88% of the time, the results show that the debt-to-GDP ratio is on an unsustainable path.

Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24697 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:50 am to
Seriously?

Bloomberg had to run a million fricking sim models just to see that our spending is unsustainable?

Any second grader with some modicum of common sense can clearly see that... yet the American sheeple will still insist that this is "just transitory" because that's what the talking box told them.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37605 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:01 am to
Why are, as a nation and society, plummeting head first and unstoppable into the libtard abyss on every level .... economically, societally, philosophically ... it's gonna be a rough and dark landing.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5002 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:04 am to
None of the Presidential candidates mention the debt/deficit. It's like it isn't there.

Fricking pathetic.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 10:07 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41084 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:05 am to
We've been trying to tell them this for years.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12530 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:07 am to
Thanks Bloomberg! Real up to date and insightful!

Now write an article on the dot com bubble and how loads of subprime mortgages could cause economic problems!
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8373 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:14 am to
Repeat after me. The crooked politicians have stolen the money (including, but not limited to Social Security). When there was no more money to steal, they simply printed some more money. When the printing money scheme was creating hyperinflation they did this....



Having said that, the crash will not be pretty. Get out of the big cities while you're able.

81 million votes
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 10:21 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260167 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:26 am to
Voters dont care, we are already into uncharted waters and no one will do a thing until were off the cliff.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7560 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:11 am to
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What’s unsustainable?


They pose the question and do not actually answer it.

Where does this end? Total economic collapse?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57122 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:15 am to
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Bloomberg had to run a million fricking sim models just to see that our spending is unsustainable?
No. Ots been obvious to anyone that know how compound interest works since 2013.

The number of people suing terms like “unexpectedly” when it blow up will be most interesting. And basically all of them wil be lying.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6407 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:18 am to
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the libtard abyss on every level


Trump spent Trillions as well. Recklessly and for no reason.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45207 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:47 am to
The political solution is austerity. Almost certainly will not happen.

The likely solution is drastic inflation
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49033 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:51 am to
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Voters dont care


Because most are idiots and only live for today.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57122 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:54 am to
quote:

The political solution is austerity. Almost certainly will not happen.

Have a look what happens when you merely suggest raising the SS age by 2 years.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54622 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:57 am to
quote:

no shite....


Water is apparently wet as well!

Started after the 1980 election with Ronnie trying to rebound quickly from the oil shocks that killed Nixon, Ford, and Carter. Every POTUS since has piled on except year 8 of Clinton. Easier to distract with other issues like ...

Abortion
Guns
Border
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73367 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:00 pm to
Can you contain your tds for at least a day?
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