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re: Bill Gates has an idea to deal with worker dislocation caused by AI

Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:31 pm to
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The law says no BODY can be elected more than twice."

Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17109 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:32 pm to
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How long will it take the prog Left Demos to want to give robots and AI Constitutional rights, including the right to vote?


Robot disability.
Posted by LSU2a
SWLA to Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
2889 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Would you rather it take you 5 hours to study enough to get an A on an exam or 1 hour?


The aliens are also laughing at us for useless examination process.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Gates is one of the biggest pos humans on the planet.


Really?
Posted by GFaceKillah
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:33 pm to
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Gates is one of the biggest pos humans on the planet.



Seriously?

Please elaborate.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
83739 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:34 pm to
More lifting than theft because Xerox was run by morons.

Gates/Jobs basically built on genius rather than created it:

How Xerox invented the Information Age - and gave it away
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:36 pm to
I don't think he's a POS. But it is a fact that he stole a lot of ideas and technology from Xerox, Apple, etc.

Watch the movie Pirates of Silicon Valley.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:37 pm to
When Skynet becomes self-aware and all of the robots attack us and eat old people's medicine, we're going to realize Terminator was the most-prophetic movie of all time.

Maybe Trump is a Terminator who runs on meatloaf sent from the future to destroy Hillary Clinton and save the human race?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62470 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:38 pm to
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ow Xerox invented the Information Age - and gave it away


Cracked? Seriously?

There were probably a few more details involved.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:39 pm to
It's a basic outline.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62470 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:39 pm to
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But it is a fact that he stole a lot of ideas and technology from Xerox, Apple, etc.


And Apple has "stolen" ideas, and I'm sure Xerox "stole" some ideas, etc.
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:40 pm to
I thought the point of robots was not paying the frickers.
Posted by LSU2a
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:40 pm to
I think taxing individual robots is silly and will create too much beaurocracy and convoluted rules. If less people are earning an income then shift the tax burden on to the businesses that are paying less of their money to human employees. More jobs will be loss due to non robotic algorithms and automation anyway.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:41 pm to
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We are fricked as a society because of AI though. Of course it makes sense but it is going to decimate jobs like never seen before.
It will only frick us as a society if we cannot shift to a system that takes care of workers who are displaced by automation. By increasing automation, business owners are able to save costs and increase profits at the expense of the displaced workers. Taken to an extreme, we'll have a society where a small number of people have all the wealth and production, and the rest of the people are destitute. That would be profoundly unjust--having millions of people who want to work but cannot compete with machines and AI.

The only way to resolve this is to redistribute wealth.

I think even staunch free-market capitalists should be able to admit that if automation is taken to its extreme, then this is the only possible outcome.

Right now we don't have this problem yet, because most people who want to work can find work. But in the long run, it's going to be an issue.
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:42 pm to
Fernando must be a big fan of malaria.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34124 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:00 pm to
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And Apple has "stolen" ideas, and I'm sure Xerox "stole" some ideas, etc.


It's not a mutually exclusive concept.

There's a scene in Pirates of Silicon Valley where Gates is in negotiations with IBM to license an operating system he had invented, called DOS. (we all remember DOS). IBM laughs and says, sure there's no money in software anyway. They all agree to this huge agreement, which is worth millions, perhaps billions of dollars to Microsoft.

Then Gates calls a struggling software engineer he knows who has actually invented DOS and offers him $800,000 for it.

Great Scene
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11689 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:00 pm to
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Would you rather it take you 10 hours to pick 100 berries or 1 hour?


I'd rather grow my own berries and make my own pancakes.


Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30514 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:03 pm to
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Seriously, I hope we have space travel to keep us entertained as a species or its over.


Maybe TD will still be around...
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:05 pm to
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At a certain point we'll just have a slave workforce in the form of robots...

No one will have to work.


the former slave class is now unemployed.

the establishment and the WTO have to come up with a way to prevent riots on a mass scale. no solution in sight yet. computer arms on an assembly line. they are not even robots. an arm guided by a computer or two.

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