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re: Big Ron squatters law in Florida first in the US outstanding .
Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:12 am to MarquisHenri
Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:12 am to MarquisHenri
You are a democrat, correct?
Ahhhhh. That’s so kind of you. Thank you so much for your permission.
And I do disagree with you.
Good news for you though. You will not be required to purchase property in Florida. The law will never affect you.
There wasn’t a single nay vote in the House or Senate. Your negative opinion of the law is meaningless. The people of Florida wanted this. Keeps more criminal trash from bringing their criminal ways to Florida.
Pssst, Florida punishes criminal illegals and turns them over to ICE too.
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Feel free to disagree,
Ahhhhh. That’s so kind of you. Thank you so much for your permission.
And I do disagree with you.
Good news for you though. You will not be required to purchase property in Florida. The law will never affect you.
There wasn’t a single nay vote in the House or Senate. Your negative opinion of the law is meaningless. The people of Florida wanted this. Keeps more criminal trash from bringing their criminal ways to Florida.
Pssst, Florida punishes criminal illegals and turns them over to ICE too.
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 8:42 am
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Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:14 am to Bard
quote:I am not “blaming” anyone.
don't blame the reactions of property owners and the legislature/governor, blame the a-hole squatters who created the mess this bill is intended to fix.
Maybe this “squatting” problem is real, and maybe it is just the latest “tempest in a teacup.”. We have certainly seen some nasty anecdotal cases recently, but I’ve not seen any data (one way or the other) to indicate whether that the phenomenon is a greater problem than it was a decade ago.
Either way, however, this piece of legislation just seems to have some problems, in that it tips the scale too much to one side in the balance between landlord and tenant rights in a disputed case.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:28 am to roadGator
quote:no
You are a democrat, correct?
quote:and there are 49 states in which changes in the law do not directly affect you. That does not make it any less interesting to discuss them
Good news for you though. You will not be required to purchase property in Florida. The law will never affect you.
quote:And the patriot act passed the Senate by a vote of 98-1. that sort of vote does not necessarily mean that something constitutes a good piece of legislation. As often as not, it is an indicator of a knee-jerk reaction to some traumatic event (like the murder of that lady in New York).
There wasn’t a single nay vote in the House or Senate
Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:28 am to Bard
In the old days you could remove the front door. You didn’t have squatters back then.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:33 am to MarquisHenri
You can discuss something that doesn’t affect you all day. Just pointing out that you will not be affected.
This law isn’t a knee jerk reaction to that murder or any other singular event. It’s a response to the growing squatting trend including people teaching others how to squat in videos.
Floridians don’t have to worry about that any longer. No more legal battles over months and months.
Would be squatters decide to avoid Florida too.
Winning.
This law isn’t a knee jerk reaction to that murder or any other singular event. It’s a response to the growing squatting trend including people teaching others how to squat in videos.
Floridians don’t have to worry about that any longer. No more legal battles over months and months.
Would be squatters decide to avoid Florida too.
Winning.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:48 am to Mr Cell Phone
It’s amazing legislation has to be passed in the first place. Until this massive illegal immigration influx by Joe Biden I did not know some squatters have rights in other states. That’s nuts.
Good for Ron signing this into law though. Keep Florida a sanctuary state for normal people.
Good for Ron signing this into law though. Keep Florida a sanctuary state for normal people.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 9:02 am to Mr Cell Phone
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Governor Big Ron DeSantis Squatters law in Florida first in the US a blessing to keep the trash from invading citizens property
You ever heard of a period?
Posted on 3/29/24 at 9:07 am to boogiewoogie1978
quote:He is just demonstrating that men do not have periods.
Governor Big Ron DeSantis Squatters law in Florida first in the US a blessing to keep the trash from invading citizens propertyquote:
You ever heard of a period?
Posted on 3/29/24 at 10:33 am to MarquisHenri
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in other words, so long as the property owner signs a complaint claiming that there is no lease, removal is basically automatic. The person in possession seems to have no option other than “after the fact” lawsuit to establish that he was indeed entitled to possession.
this is a problem and the law will be overturned by the courts.
i agree with the idea, but the wording gives tenants zero rights if a landlord just wants to throw them out even without cause.
all im saying is the owner should be required to show just cause for eviction, like unpaid rent or violation of the lease, not just him saying he wants them out.
many landlords are worse pieces of shite then used car salesmen, so i just want to see basic common sense allowing a legal tenant to have some basic rights to not be thrown out if they paid their rent
Posted on 3/29/24 at 10:59 am to Mr Cell Phone
Actually, it was a Florida state Senator who proposed the bill. And she is a democrat.
As usual, politicians don't address real issues UNTIL it affects them personally.
As usual, politicians don't address real issues UNTIL it affects them personally.
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The move comes as a relief to Florida property owner Patti Peeples, who dealt with squatters last year.
“It gives me a real feeling of positive hope that we still have the ability to discuss challenges in our society and work with our legislatures in a bipartisan way,” she told WJXT.
Peeples shared her story during a state Senate Criminal Justice Committee hearing in February.
“Imagine for a moment that you leave from your day of serving the citizens of Florida as a senator and you return to your home,” she said, according to Fox News. “But when you walk in, there are strangers sitting on your sofa, watching your TV, eating your food.”
“You ask who they are and what they are doing, and they tell you that they have rented this house and present you with a lease.”
It took Peeples over a month to get the law to evict the squatters, and in the meantime the crooks caused tens of thousands of dollars worth of damage to her home.
“At the crux of this issue is just basic unfairness,” she told WJXT. “If we don’t have the right to inhabit our own property, then what kind of world are we living in?”
Posted on 3/29/24 at 12:26 pm to MarquisHenri
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in other words, so long as the property owner signs a complaint claiming that there is no lease, removal is basically automatic. The person in possession seems to have no option other than “after the fact” lawsuit to establish that he was indeed entitled to possession.
To make it an even better law the police should be required to hit the squatter 5 times over the top of the head with a night stick and when they are on the ground use a tazer until the battery dies.
100% serious.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 12:43 pm to MarquisHenri
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The property owner could demand that the sheriff remove tenant from his property, and it looks to me as if the sheriff would simply be required to do so, even if the reported tenant shows the sheriff a written lease.
The ACTUAL, contractual tenant”s only relief would be later filing a lawsuit for wrongful eviction. That private cause of action is all well and good, but it doesn’t put a roof over the heads of that family.
This bill is a good idea in theory. But there are some unscrupulous landlords that will abuse it in practice.
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:59 pm to keakar
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Under HB 621, a property owner can request law enforcement to immediately remove a squatter from their property if the following conditions are met: The individual has unlawfully entered and remains on the property; The individual has been directed to leave the property by the owner but has not done so; and The individual is not a current or former tenant in a legal dispute.
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:08 pm to MarquisHenri
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Most places, you can have an eviction judgment in two or three weeks.
If the occupant doesn’t contest it.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:22 pm to MarquisHenri
As a person who has had to vacate a home twice despite paying my rent, I see the complexity that most people don't. In both situations, the landlords stopped paying their mortgages but continued cashing my rent checks. Having a sheriff show up to evict you out of the blue really sucks.
I would agree with this law, if there were criminal penalties for the owner if they lied. Not a misdemeanor, but felony. If I can prove I have a lease and bank statements showing I've been paying, and you use this new law to get me out because you want to sell or think you can lease it for more, or whatever bullshite reason, then jail time should be involved, on top of financial damages civilly.
I would agree with this law, if there were criminal penalties for the owner if they lied. Not a misdemeanor, but felony. If I can prove I have a lease and bank statements showing I've been paying, and you use this new law to get me out because you want to sell or think you can lease it for more, or whatever bullshite reason, then jail time should be involved, on top of financial damages civilly.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 6:29 pm to MarquisHenri
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Maybe this “squatting” problem is real, and maybe it is just the latest “tempest in a teacup.”. We have certainly seen some nasty anecdotal cases recently, but I’ve not seen any data (one way or the other) to indicate whether that the phenomenon is a greater problem than it was a decade ago.
With the massive increase in illegals as well as homelessness (which is heavily driven by addiction), I see it as far more likely that this is increasing than not.
That said, I also see the legislation as being similar to the amendment La voters passed at the end of 2022 barring non-citizens from voting. At the time there were many who lambasted the legislation as nothing more than fear-mongering. Today, not even a year and a half later, we see other states and municipalities pushing to allow illegals to vote. It's a rare instance of legislation being ahead of the curve.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 6:30 pm to deeprig9
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I would agree with this law, if there were criminal penalties for the owner if they lied. Not a misdemeanor, but felony. If I can prove I have a lease and bank statements showing I've been paying, and you use this new law to get me out because you want to sell or think you can lease it for more, or whatever bullshite reason, then jail time should be involved, on top of financial damages civilly.
I can agree to that.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 6:43 pm to Mr Cell Phone
Ron is a very good governor. He wasn’t a good presidential candidate. It’s no big deal. Both things are true.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 6:47 pm to Mr Cell Phone
quote:
providing that sheriffs are entitled to a
specified fee for service of such notice; authorizing
the owner or agent to request that the sheriff stand
by while the owner or agent takes possession of the
property; authorizing the sheriff to charge a
reasonable hourly rate;
State/property tax should take care of that charge...
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