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re: BIG PICTURE; Trump Has Been Check-Mating China. Examples? Panama Canal, Venezuela, Iran...

Posted on 4/14/26 at 7:43 am to
Posted by JayDub
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 7:43 am to
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What does this even mean? Are we at war with them? Do you think it’s good if we cut off their energy supply?


Another bone headed post...
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23326 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 8:27 am to
I agree 100% that leveraging China is his plan and that at a strategic level it’s absolutely the right way to go.

His work to undo the borderline treasonous deals previous democrats had put into place that allowed the Panama Canal to slip into the control of the CCP was critical to being able to maintain a hemispheric defense plan.

His overthrow of the Venezuelan government which was going Chinese along with most of South America and bringing their oil into our aegis of control is a massive achievement that allows us if we can also guide Brazil back into the ranks, to reestablish control of the continent and break the back of BRICS which was about to destroy the petro dollar and with it our ability to sustain our current economy.

I even understand and didn’t have a major problem with a quick attempt at regime change in Iran via assassination which along with funding a revolution were the only viable paths to realigning Iran away from China into our sphere of influence.

The issue is that it didn’t work.

Then Israel and the neocons sold him that the Air Force could topple them and that didn’t work either.

We have to be objective now and acknowledge that the cost to realign Iran is a ground invasion against a militarized nation of 90M many of whom believe they’re in a religious war.

The opportunity cost now of regime change in Iran is somewhere between 50-100k US casualties and a multi year disruption of the energy markets which will cause an economic downturn.

We need to get what we can via negotiations as Vance is pushing, leverage Iran as Trump is doing to get what we can reasonably achieve given the circumstances and all agree as conservatives that our biggest enemies aren’t in Iran, they’re in DC, NYC and the EU and if we don’t address them before the left gets power again they’re going to do to us what they’re doing to Canadians, Britains and Europeans right now and there won’t be anything short of revolution that will undo the damage that will ensue.

We need to accept a limited victory in Iran to be able to have a chance to win the existential battle that’s to come against the globalists that is still in the opening stages domestically.
Posted by GaPhan
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:01 am to
Posted by GaPhan
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:02 am to
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2402 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:49 am to
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Are we at war with them?


Do you let 600,000 Chinese students into your country to study at your universities if you are at war with China?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9372 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:54 am to
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Iran is about a lot of things, but China's unhealthy relationship with that country has always been a factor. And again, China's interest in Iran's oil supply is a not an insignificant factor.


And depending on how all this plays out, China may end up looking like the more stable partner to some of the gulf states.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9372 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:10 am to
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Do you let 600,000 Chinese students into your country to study at your universities if you are at war with China?


Yea lets not only allow hundred of thousands of citizens from the supposed enemy and country we are at war with to study here but double their numbers.... as Trump sees it as a beneficial business, economic, and diplomatic move......
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21906 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:56 am to
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49964 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:57 am to
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All of Trump's gains will be for naught if a Democrat is ever elected president again.


No doubt. They will go scorched Earth if/when they regain the White House. I still remember scumbag Hillary Clinton saying circa 2024 that it might be time to send Trump/MAGA supporters to "re-education camps." (I guess even Hillary knew better than to call them "concentration camps" since that term has a bit of a sordid history).

But, I think we at least have to try and clean up our corrupt system. I'd rather try and risk failing than not try at all. I pray that God, not Trump, is the true leader of this. As much as our corrupt system has done for 10 years to take out Trump, AND YET HE'S STILL HERE AND IN THE WHITE HOUSE, it makes me think that God is with us.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49964 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 11:19 am to
Great video, GaPhan. That woman is very impressive.

I think I prefer President Trump's plan for "The Great Reset" as opposed to the plan that Globalist scumbags like Klaus Schwab have. Just "slightly."
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49964 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 11:23 am to
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And depending on how all this plays out, China may end up looking like the more stable partner to some of the gulf states.


I don't think that Iran regime was too popular with most of their neighbors. Doesn't seem that way to me, anyway.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
27657 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 11:28 am to
We undoubtedly have the largest, most prolific military. We are more than half of the world footprint in useless groups like NATO, and we have bases all over the world. Sometimes it is important to remind the World what we are capable of, which is why I support these actions and am the furthest from a Democrat. Those idiots always want to draw down the military when a few Republican Presidents in a row could expand our influence even more. Trump, like him or not, has expanded our presence elsewhere so that we aren't reliant on the Middle East for all of our oil. Any recession isn't going to hit us like it will the other countries in Europe that depend so heavily on the SoH.

And anybody who doesn't think we are actively at war with China behind the scenes has no visibility.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9372 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 11:57 am to
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don't think that Iran regime was too popular with most of their neighbors. Doesn't seem that way to me, anyway


No and this is far from over but there are plenty of ways this can go sideways for us that could present opportunities for China.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49964 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:01 pm to
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No and this is far from over but there are plenty of ways this can go sideways for us that could present opportunities for China.


It's a very complex situation, for sure. I support Trump's actions, but the "degree of difficulty" here is high.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24874 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:18 pm to
True
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3624 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:35 pm to
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I agree 100% that leveraging China is his plan and that at a strategic level it’s absolutely the right way to go. His work to undo the borderline treasonous deals previous democrats had put into place that allowed the Panama Canal to slip into the control of the CCP was critical to being able to maintain a hemispheric defense plan. His overthrow of the Venezuelan government which was going Chinese along with most of South America and bringing their oil into our aegis of control is a massive achievement that allows us if we can also guide Brazil back into the ranks, to reestablish control of the continent and break the back of BRICS which was about to destroy the petro dollar and with it our ability to sustain our current economy. I even understand and didn’t have a major problem with a quick attempt at regime change in Iran via assassination which along with funding a revolution were the only viable paths to realigning Iran away from China into our sphere of influence. The issue is that it didn’t work. Then Israel and the neocons sold him that the Air Force could topple them and that didn’t work either. We have to be objective now and acknowledge that the cost to realign Iran is a ground invasion against a militarized nation of 90M many of whom believe they’re in a religious war. The opportunity cost now of regime change in Iran is somewhere between 50-100k US casualties and a multi year disruption of the energy markets which will cause an economic downturn. We need to get what we can via negotiations as Vance is pushing, leverage Iran as Trump is doing to get what we can reasonably achieve given the circumstances and all agree as conservatives that our biggest enemies aren’t in Iran, they’re in DC, NYC and the EU and if we don’t address them before the left gets power again they’re going to do to us what they’re doing to Canadians, Britains and Europeans right now and there won’t be anything short of revolution that will undo the damage that will ensue. We need to accept a limited victory in Iran to be able to have a chance to win the existential battle that’s to come against the globalists that is still in the opening stages domestically.


Great post. I agree with all of that. Just one little correction or opinion of mine is this existential battle has been going on for a longgggg time. And we’re still closer to losing than winning. Thank god for Trump
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55553 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:47 pm to
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if Trump keeps this up, I legit see a Chinese peasant class uprising happening in the next 5 years or sooner. And, guess what? If their tanks cant run because they have no gas, its going to be problematic for Winnie the Poo and the ruling class over there.

I would love to see all of that, but you’ve greatly exaggerated the energy picture for China. They will have all the oil they need. They will just have to pay market rates for it.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57860 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:50 pm to
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Are we at war with them?


No, but they are at war with us.

quote:

Do you think it’s good if we cut off their energy supply?


Yes.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23326 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:05 pm to
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And we’re still closer to losing than winning.

My hope is that he wanted China put in a box, establish the US as the new arbiter of global energy access and solidify the petro dollar before he goes scorched earth on the globalists.

But time is running short and the RINOs in congress will fight him as hard as the democrats if and when he attempts to really start that battle so the clock is ticking...

This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3624 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:32 pm to
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My hope is that he wanted China put in a box, the US as the new arbiter of global energy access and the petro dollar solidified before he goes scorched earth on the globalists. But time is running short and the RINOs in congress will fight him as hard as the democrats if and when he attempts to really start that battle so the clock is ticking...


100% my thoughts. It amazes me how most people didn’t see the boxing in of China moves after Venezuela and the start of Iran. Should’ve been obvious.
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