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Big If True!
Posted on 4/8/20 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 4/8/20 at 2:54 pm
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‘Going outdoors is what stops every respiratory disease’
A veteran scholar of epidemiology has warned that the ongoing lockdowns throughout the United States and the rest of the world are almost certainly just prolonging the coronavirus outbreak rather than doing anything to truly mitigate it.
Knut Wittkowski, previously the longtime head of the Department of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design at the Rockefeller University in New York City, said in an interview with the Press and the Public Project that the coronavirus could be “exterminated” if we permitted most people to lead normal lives and sheltered the most vulnerable parts of society until the danger had passed.
“[W]hat people are trying to do is flatten the curve. I don’t really know why. But, what happens is if you flatten the curve, you also prolong, to widen it, and it takes more time. And I don’t see a good reason for a respiratory disease to stay in the population longer than necessary,” he said.
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 2:54 pm to Seldom Seen
JBE has blood on his hands.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 2:55 pm to Seldom Seen
Makes sense. You are just breathing recirculated air indoors basically. Especially in modern houses that are pretty airtight.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 2:56 pm to Seldom Seen
I have actually seen more people going on walks, riding bikes, etc. since the "lockdown".
Posted on 4/8/20 at 2:57 pm to Seldom Seen
We are probably also giving the virus a chance to mutate to overcome the treatments that are available- such as the malaria drugs.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 2:57 pm to Seldom Seen
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‘Going outdoors is what stops every respiratory disease’
Wow! A Doc with common sense!
Watch your 6, Doc
Posted on 4/8/20 at 2:58 pm to Seldom Seen
If didn't know this already, you are a stupid sheeple.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 2:58 pm to stout
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Makes sense. You are just breathing recirculated air indoors basically. Especially in modern houses that are pretty airtight.
He is talking about herd immunity...not avoiding the virus by being outdoors.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 2:59 pm to Seldom Seen
Not to mention you can get rid of excess energy and boredom. If I don’t get out for a long dog walk or cycle for an hour and a half at least.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:00 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Chicken pock parties
We all caught on purpose so we could get it over with
We all caught on purpose so we could get it over with
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:02 pm to Seldom Seen
Libs will not agree with this man. Followed all links to it and to this guy. He is a legit epidemiologist.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:02 pm to mark65mc
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I have actually seen more people going on walks, riding bikes, etc. since the "lockdown".
which is probably the real reason that deaths are far below the initial models
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:05 pm to Seldom Seen
Well, if true that's good for me. Since the shelter in place I'm outside almost the entire day either running, mowing, weed-eating, or exercising getting my Vitamin D. I love the outdoors.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:13 pm to Seldom Seen
This also works for hangovers.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:14 pm to Seldom Seen
quote:It isn't.
Big If True!
Sorry.
and FYI the "Scholar of Epidemiology" is not an MD. He is a PhD. No problem there at all. His focus could be different and very valuable.
However, when he says he doesn't understand value of flattening the curve, as NYC was desperately bringing in Hospital Ships, transitioning the Javits Center, Ventilators, etc., its an odd take at best.
What he may be trying to convey is something we've been talking about here -- lockdown at-risk folks, and get everyone else back to normal.
Now that we've had a look at this Chinese SOB, IMO an at-risk SIP will be our next step.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:16 pm to Seldom Seen
It seemed to work with The Plague. People who lived in the country did not encounter the fleas infected mice in the cities.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:16 pm to Seldom Seen
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Asked about Anthony Fauci, the White House medical expert who for weeks has been predicting significant numbers of COVID-19 deaths in America as well as major ongoing disruptions to daily life possibly for years, Wittkowski replied: “Well, I’m not paid by the government, so I’m entitled to actually do science.”
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:23 pm to NC_Tigah
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It isn't. Sorry. and FYI the "Scholar of Epidemiology" is not an MD. He is a PhD. No problem there at all. His focus could be different and very valuable. However, when he says he doesn't understand value of flattening the curve, as NYC was desperately bringing in Hospital Ships, transitioning the Javits Center, Ventilators, etc., its an odd take at best. What he may be trying to convey is something we've been talking about here -- lockdown at-risk folks, and get everyone else back to normal. Now that we've had a look at this Chinese SOB, IMO an at-risk SIP will be our next step.
It is.
Not Sorry.
Flattening the curve makes sense if you want to crash the economy. But it makes no sense if you are 30 years old and healthy. Why delay getting sick if you aren't likely to be the one that needs a hospital bed or ventilator?
He said protect those that need protecting. Not act like everyone that gets this virus is going to die.
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sheltered the most vulnerable parts of society until the danger had passed.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:34 pm to omegaman66
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He said protect those that need protecting. Not act like everyone that gets this virus is going to die.
98% chance that if you get it, you won't die.
100% chance the bank will eventually take your house if you don't pay your mortgage.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:45 pm to NC_Tigah
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However, when he says he doesn't understand value of flattening the curve,
I don't exactly know how to help you here, but you need to get a grip
1) The numbers are being padded. They openly admit it
2) The numbers are overwhelmingly affecting one specific community
3) Another much smaller subgroup is nursing home patients, who unfortunately are serviced by the community that is being hardest hit
There was never a curve to flatten. Every single one of us will be exposed. 10% will catch it, and only 4.7% of those will show symptoms. Not even close to being any reason for this madness we are forced to live under
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