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re: Biden waived Trump’s executive privilege
Posted on 8/23/22 at 6:35 am to bearsaremean
Posted on 8/23/22 at 6:35 am to bearsaremean
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quote:Odumbf*ck did the same f*cking thing and no one said anything about it.
Obama didnt take anything classified.
You poor, ignorant stupid f*ck. They all do. Mainly because the government over classifies everything. They worked with Odumbf*ck after he left but they never resorted to blatantly violating the Constitution to get documents that Odumbf*ck wasn't required to return.
I mean this sincerely – GET SOME SERIOUS F*CKING PROFESSIONAL HELP.
You are one SICK F*CK.
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 6:39 am to bearsaremean
quote:Do you know what the process is for a president to declassify anything is?
yes, the President can declassify anything he wants. the problem is theres no evidence at all that he ever did that.
Hint….it goes like this
Box of documents…President says “everything in it is now declassified”
He isn’t required to document it, or ask anyone’s permission for a single page of it. The only witness he needs…..is himself.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 6:40 am to bearsaremean
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this piece of shite took off with 300 classified documents, for god knows what reason,
Thus they are now declassified.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 6:42 am to CamdenTiger
quote:He’s behind it, but he cannot reclassify documents now in possession of a private citizen.
RAV is breaking that Biden is behind the Raid at Maralago and it’s because withdrawal of Trumps executive privilege
Posted on 8/23/22 at 6:44 am to bearsaremean
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yes, the President can declassify anything he wants. the problem is theres no evidence at all that he ever did that.
I wish I had time to go over with you how stupid this makes your whole argument, but I’m not going to argue with a moron.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 6:48 am to bearsaremean
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 6:50 am to CamdenTiger
I'm no political historian but, seems a logical move by an opposing side in power to eliminate what's seen as threatening it's current hold on power.
My personal opinion is the left keeps pushing, daring & hoping for public uprising so police and/or military can be used. Unless leaders stand up against this, the only conclusion is some form of civil unrest pushing back...
The situation continues to worsen, tensions and unrest continue to rise. What the left doesn't understand or care about is how damaging to our nation the coming "unrest" will be to our nation, both domestically and as a world leader. The country needs a great leader to emerge and close the worsening gap between left and right.
My personal opinion is the left keeps pushing, daring & hoping for public uprising so police and/or military can be used. Unless leaders stand up against this, the only conclusion is some form of civil unrest pushing back...
The situation continues to worsen, tensions and unrest continue to rise. What the left doesn't understand or care about is how damaging to our nation the coming "unrest" will be to our nation, both domestically and as a world leader. The country needs a great leader to emerge and close the worsening gap between left and right.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 6:51 am to Bunk Moreland
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They cry about fascism while putting a boot in your face and doing things way more tyrannical than Trump could dream of.
quote:
Communist are gonna communist
They are communazis.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 6:52 am to Aubie Spr96
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quote:yes, the President can declassify anything he wants. the problem is theres no evidence at all that he ever did that. I wish I had time to go over with you how stupid this makes your whole argument, but I’m not going to argue with a moron.
They all need to look up the word
quote:
plenary
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:00 am to lake chuck fan
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The country needs a great leader to emerge and close the worsening gap between left and right.
How could a leader close that gap when the two sides fundamentally don’t want the same thing?
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:03 am to bearsaremean
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trump took over 300 classified documents he had no right to
Can you do us a favor, point us to the formal procedure for a sitting President to declass documents and information. Be specific, and if you would, please use examples of past Presidents enacting this procedure for documents they took with them as they left the White House.
Surely in the history of the republic at least one other President took with him materials some would deem sensitive to national security, so I'm confident you will be able to point out this procedure or find an example of it's use.
Or maybe they didn't use this procedure and should have, and the current President at the time sent federal agents to his private residence to retrieve everything they deemed sensitive, maybe there is an example of that somewhere?
Let us know what you find.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 7:20 am
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:20 am to tide06
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quote:
The country needs a great leader to emerge and close the worsening gap between left and right.
How could a leader close that gap when the two sides fundamentally don’t want the same thing?
Exactly, The Left wants Marxism and Groomers Galore. MAGA wants the Govt to stay the hell out of our wallets and our lives.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:26 am to CamdenTiger
It is an interesting legal question.
Does the privilege belong to the office/institution or to the individual?
Does the privilege belong to the office/institution or to the individual?
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 7:34 am
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:32 am to Diamondawg
quote:and local jail vs prison?
Trump will be sentenced to life at Riker’s Island after a kangaroo court convicts him.quote:
You know the difference in state and federal, right?
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:33 am to AggieHank86
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It is an interesting question.
Not when you think it through, it' not interesting at all.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:35 am to Dock Holiday
quote:Please expound.
It is an interesting legal question.quote:
Not when you think it through, it' not interesting at all.
If the privilege belongs to the individual, this action would be unsupported. If it belongs to the office, this action has a firm legal basis.
The basis of the privilege is (in a nutshell) that withholding information from the public somehow serves the national interest. Who is better suited to determine the “national interest“ in the present? The current holder of the office, or someone who held the office 30 years ago?
95% of the posts in this thread are a kneejerk “protect Trump“ response. I find the broader question more interesting. You need not agree.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 7:48 am
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:40 am to bearsaremean
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If, as you say, this is a serious crime justifying the raid of President Trump's private residence and seizing of all his files.
Why wasnt the same done to Hilary? Who had Top Secret files on a toilet server. Comey said no reasonable peosecutor would charge. Now you stated earlier she should be in prison over this.
Why the two orders? Why was Hilary not raided?
Where you at bitch boy
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:47 am to Goforit
quote:Agreed.
This raises a serious Constitutional question.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:49 am to kilo
quote:It is a copy of a letter. It is sitting on a server somewhere. Is the owner of that server particularly relevant?
”justthenews.com" Get the frick out of here...
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:53 am to kilo
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to an incumbent President if such records contain information that is needed for the conduct of current business of the incumbent President’s office and that is not otherwise available.” 44 U.S.C. § 2205(2)(B).
Those conditions are satisfied here. As the Department of Justice’s National Security Division explained to you on April 29, 2022: There are important national security interests in the FBI and others in the Intelligence Community getting access to these materials.
No. Those aren’t congruent statements. Neither are connected.
It’s a nonsense argument and should be treated as such.
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