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re: Biden Moves to Permanently Ban Offshore Oil and Gas Drilling
Posted on 1/3/25 at 8:39 am to Penrod
Posted on 1/3/25 at 8:39 am to Penrod
That’s a judge playing politics issue and never had a chance to get to another court as 2020 was a thing back then. Under that logic Biden could declare a country wide ban on oil, gas drilling as well as no drinking, no smoking no whatever else he wanted to. There are remedies for the EO’s.
Edit: the reason there are EO’s and the heavier use of them is because of the progression of Congress ignoring their responsibilities and allowing the presidents to utilize them. Only Congress has the authority to make laws and treaties. The de facto authority given to entities such as presidents, departments such as EPA, OSHA are beyond are worrisome as you have people make laws and fines that have no legal validity whatsoever as the were not given that power by congress or the voters
Edit: the reason there are EO’s and the heavier use of them is because of the progression of Congress ignoring their responsibilities and allowing the presidents to utilize them. Only Congress has the authority to make laws and treaties. The de facto authority given to entities such as presidents, departments such as EPA, OSHA are beyond are worrisome as you have people make laws and fines that have no legal validity whatsoever as the were not given that power by congress or the voters
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 8:47 am
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 10:38 am to Nosevens
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That’s a judge playing politics issue and never had a chance to get to another court as 2020 was a thing back then. Under that logic Biden could declare a country wide ban on oil, gas drilling as well as no drinking, no smoking no whatever else he wanted to. There are remedies for the EO’s.
I think that the law is more complex than you or I understand, and that sweeping generalizations, like “EOs can all be easily overturned”, are just wrong. Most can; some can’t. This one appears to be the latter. That’s not to say it can’t be overturned; it just might be very difficult and take time.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 10:54 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Even back when there were kings one couldn't commit a future one to anything.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:00 am to LSU Jax
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And frick him too.
With a splintered telephone pole!
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:32 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I'm good with this, I'd rather we be producing private oil rather than government oil. Besides, the reserves under federal land represent our REAL strategic reserve, as opposed to the ridiculously small amount stored in salt domes and stuff.
I'm pretty sure only about 15% of our total oil production comes from federal offshore waters. Texas produces by far the most oil of any state, and the vast majority of it comes from state and private lands, not federal.
I'm pretty sure only about 15% of our total oil production comes from federal offshore waters. Texas produces by far the most oil of any state, and the vast majority of it comes from state and private lands, not federal.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:35 am to BayouBlitz
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Gateway pundit.
Nah.
Being reported by a legit news source?
As in? 
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:39 am to Harry Boutte
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I'd rather we be producing private oil rather than government oil.
Then expect the price per barrel to increase should the U.S. ever implement that. Be ready for things to cost more.
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New Mexico is the nation’s second-largest crude oil-producing state, after Texas. In 2023, the state accounted for 14% of total U.S. crude oil production.
LINK
Ever looked at a mineral owner map of the Permian Basin within New Mexico's borders? You can play around with this map for starters:
LINK
A shite ton of Federal and State minerals in there.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 11:41 am
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:06 pm to ragincajun03
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Then expect the price per barrel to increase should the U.S. ever implement that.
WTI is selling at about $75. There's room there for an increase. But then there are all sorts of factors going into the price of oil on the global market - including OPEC and Russian production.
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Be ready for things to cost more.
Things always cost more- especially since Nixon changed our money from the gold standard to the oil standard. For example, prices were 8% higher when Trump left office in 2021 than they were when he took office in 2017.
I lived through the inflation of the 70s, I'm ready, are you?
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A shite ton of Federal and State minerals in there.
Yep, and that all cuts into private land owners' profits.
But I guess if you like Big Government, you do you.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:14 pm to Harry Boutte
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Yep, and that all cuts into private land owners' profits.
I'm not sure oil & gas producers' main role is to pay maximum "profits" to landowners. It's to seek out a combination of best reservoirs/benches and best Net Revenue Interest per mineral acre.
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But I guess if you like Big Government, you do you.
Big government would block other reservoirs from being explored and produced in order to prematurely force an "energy transition".
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:21 pm to ragincajun03
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I'm not sure oil & gas producers' main role is to pay maximum "profits" to landowners.
I never said it was. But government production is artificially depressing the price in the market for private oil-producing land owners. Isn't it?
And the way you put "profits" in quotes tells me you've never owned land from which mineral royalties were collected. The government already collects a severance tax from minerals extracted, but you want them collecting the royalties as well.
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Big government would block other reservoirs from being explored and produced in order to prematurely force an "energy transition".
Only if you support Biden and his ilk.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:24 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:38 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
He’s too fricked in the head to be questioned about top secret documents and too fricked up to run again for president, but we’ll let him stay in office and sign executive orders.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:48 pm to Harry Boutte
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And the way you put "profits" in quotes tells me you've never owned land from which mineral royalties were collected.
Wrong.
And you stated landowners' profits, so I put it in quotes because landowners actually get paid royalties on their mineral rights that they leased. Unless they want to go in as a working interest owner, then they're bringing in revenues.
Sure...it's all a profit in one way or another.
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Only if you support Biden and his ilk.
I support Biden and his ilk because I believe in making government lands available for domestic oil production?
Ok....sure, Jan.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:05 pm to ragincajun03
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I support Biden and his ilk because I believe in making government lands available for domestic oil production?
I never said that. You said:
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Big government would block other reservoirs from being explored and produced in order to prematurely force an "energy transition".
I said Big Government will "block other reservoirs from being explored and produced in order to prematurely force an 'energy transition'" ONLY IF you support Biden and his ilk.
But it does seem that you would rather the government profit from mineral sales rather than private land owners.
Why else do you want government meddling in the energy market?
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:16 pm to Harry Boutte
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But it does seem that you would rather the government profit from mineral sales rather than private land owners.
So if I've got 160 government owned mineral acres within a 320 acre drilling spacing unit for a proposed two mile lateral, frick those private mineral owners who own the other 160 mineral acres, right? They just get their minerals stranded because we shouldn't produce government minerals.
You make a law tomorrow that all private mineral acres must be developed and produced before any government minerals can be developed, and you're going to watch industry jobs within the borders of the United States decrease.
I'm moving on. Making oil production within our own borders less efficient and more difficult is absolute stupidity when we need every bit of produced energy at this time.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:20 pm to ragincajun03
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frick those private mineral owners who own the other 160 mineral acres, right?
I never said that either. You need to stop putting words into peoples' mouths.
Private land production should be prioritized over federal production. If you need to produce from public lands to free up private reserves, so be it.
There's no private land >3 miles offshore. Keep that as strategic reserve.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:34 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Why even post this? It literally is impossible for any president to do
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:41 pm to ragincajun03
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we need every bit of produced energy at this time.
Apparently we don't when millions of cars line up every school day in the street, idling their engines, waiting for their children to be released. When young men are buying trucks with <15 mpg just so they can "roll coal" means gas is cheap. When you need every bit of something, you usually try to conserve it.
But we don't actually need fossil fuels to generate the electricity needed for the predicted future demand, we need the electrical generating power of fission and, eventually, fusion.
You people who make oil production a political point are just as bad as the liberals of the 70s who made nuclear power into a political point.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:06 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
A total ban on offshore should have gone into effect in 2010 with the Deepwater Horizon catastrophe
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