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re: Biden Enviro Justice Member: From Nile to the Mississippi, Petrochems are next Big Fight
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:42 am to AllDayEveryDay
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:42 am to AllDayEveryDay
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The more this shite goes on the more I'm convinced that all of it is just a ploy by the rest of the world to get the US more dependent on them for resources.
Chinese and Russian media push this shite as well. Of course, not in their country, just ours.
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:44 am to jimjackandjose
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You can't actively take away a means to a standard of living and providing for children and family without a viable alternative
This is the problem with all of this in a perfectly summed up sentence. They are doing this with absolutely no plan to replace what is being attacked that is reliable and stable. And idiots are lapping it up.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:53 am to ragincajun03
She has made some wild claims in the past about “Cancer Alley”.
And she’s been doing damage for a long time thanks to Dillard University giving her a platform.
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In an interview with Vice magazine Wright remarked, “All the birds had disappeared except for the crows. Screens on their windows were rusting and falling off in like three months. The air was so corrosive that the paint on their cars was being melted off,”
And she’s been doing damage for a long time thanks to Dillard University giving her a platform.
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In 1992 Wright became the founder and executive director of the Deep South Center for Environmental Justice (DSCEJ) at Dillard University.
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Wright and the DSCEJ developed an environmental justice curriculum for elementary schools in New Orleans.
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Wright has worked with Mitch Landrieu on his Sustainable Energy and Environmental Taskforce.[2] In 2017 she delivered expert testimony to the Council of the City of New Orleans to describe the risks associated with a Entergy gas power plant
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:57 am to Ghost of Colby
I downvoted you because everything she said in those comments is outright false and it royally pisses me off.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:59 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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Earlier this year, Shell admitted to moving high-emitting facilities to regions such as Louisiana with poor environmental regulations
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this is factually wrong.
It's factually wrong
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“No one in the company has said this,” he continued, “but the pattern is pretty clear: if you’re a major greenhouse gas emitter, and particularly if you operate in a GHG-sensitive area like [California, Washington] or [Canada], your days in the Shell family are probably numbered.”
What happens to those facilities, though? Those emissions don’t just disappear. Often, they change hands to far less accountable and high-profile companies, usually private equity firms or smaller, privately held drillers, which are content to keep on spewing carbon, methane, and other pollutants into the atmosphere and surrounding communities.
In some cases, Shell is perfectly content to keep polluting. “The other pattern to notice,” Lesher wrote, “is where we DO own high GHG intensive things, it’s in areas where they aren’t that politically sensitive about such matters: China, Singapore, Malaysia, Louisiana.” In other words, the places where they can get away with it.
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Shell said they divested Convent because it wasn't making money. I bet they really shut it down because it was an easy target for an environmental "win"
So instead of investing into making the site operate cleaner, just shut it down. frick those several hundred employees and their families and the supporting businesses in the community.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:03 am to Cuz413
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Shell said they divested Convent because it wasn't making money. I bet they really shut it down because it was an easy target for an environmental "win" So instead of investing into making the site operate cleaner, just shut it down. frick those several hundred employees and their families and the supporting businesses in the community.
They are reinvesting in it and if their funding comes through, could quadruple the footprint of the current site (Shell owns so much of the surrounding land).
The refinery wasn’t making money in 2020 when shut down and doesn’t have a Coker, making it less economical right now nor is it designed to run high rates of light tight shale oil that the US is making.
The shutdown was primarily an economic decision, but the reinvestment is part economic, part future looking technology.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:05 am to ragincajun03
It's pretty crazy how these people have completely forgotten how crippled this economy has been because of supply chain issues due to reliance on foreign supplied materials. And here we are, yet again, talking about how we need to send all these manufacturing industries overseas so we can pretend like we're doing something for the environment.
This arrogance is going to be the downfall of the west.
This arrogance is going to be the downfall of the west.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:05 am to Gee Grenouille
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For decades, since the 1950s, it’s been part of our landscape and our shared reality and the effects have been devastating –
I have a really horrible post in mind that has something to do with the civil rights and voting rights acts but I don’t want to be a piece of shite on such a beautiful Friday.
Hmmmmm
Which political party created all of these issues they are talking about in the 50's? Which political party is now claiming to have the "fix" for the issues they created?
Hint: It is the same political party that tells you today men can have babies and fricking kids is normal behavior.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:08 am to ragincajun03
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known as COP27, in Sharm El Sheik, Egypt, where I joined global leaders, advocates and NGOs who are charting the global path forward on climate.
These conferences are just boondoggles. They have zero impact on "climate". The "climate" laughs at these conferences.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:11 am to Ghost of Colby
Dr. Beverly Wright would better serve humanity as someone's maid.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:12 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Hmmmmm
Which political party created all of these issues they are talking about in the 50's? Which political party is now claiming to have the "fix" for the issues they created?
Hint: It is the same political party that tells you today men can have babies and fricking kids is normal behavior.
This narrative about how plants purposely put their facilities in black neighborhoods is one of the biggest lies these people have perpetuated in quite a while.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:13 am to ragincajun03
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but petrochemical hubs in local communities such as Louisiana are where the fight starts.
biden said he would get rid of the fuel and gas industry and people still cast their vote for him so idk
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:13 am to Ghost of Colby
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Wright has worked with Mitch Landrieu on his Sustainable Energy and Environmental Taskforce.[2] In 2017 she delivered expert testimony to the Council of the City of New Orleans to describe the risks associated with a Entergy gas power plant
Dumbass doesn’t realize she hurts black people the most since they are the majority in New Orleans. Same with being soft in crime because racism.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:13 am to Oilfieldbiology
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I downvoted you because everything she said in those comments is outright false and it royally pisses me off.
Downvote away, as long as she gets exposed for being a dangerous fraud. She has been been lurking in the shadows doing damage for far too long.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:14 am to upgrayedd
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This narrative about how plants purposely put their facilities in black neighborhoods is one of the biggest lies these people have perpetuated in quite a while.
Social engineers attach race to every issue to motivate the emotional voters, women.
All you have to do is mention race and the little soys dance.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:30 am to ragincajun03
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How was the laptop made that she typed this piece out on?
Too many people have absolutely no clue how our entire lives are tied to the petrochemical industry today.
Our lives are unrecognizable and unsustainable without it today.
Try feeding the 8 billion people on this planet without the fertilizer plants.
Not even getting into every single thing you buy has plastic in it
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:44 am to Oilfieldbiology
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The refinery wasn’t making money in 2020 when shut down and doesn’t have a Coker
None of Shell's refineries were making money in 2020. Motiva made money at the end of it's run under the direction of a non-Shell CEO. Motiva was making enough and was so counter to Shell's business model, it's the reason Shell chose to end the JV.
Convent had a resid Hydrocracker that when operated properly, turned resid into diesel. Much more profitable than Coke dust.
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nor is it designed to run high rates of light tight shale oil that the US is making
No refinery I know of is setup to run light and tight shale exclusively. Texaco redesigned Convent to run sour crude. However, Convent had 2 crude units, so only money would have stopped them from investing into a train on either of the 2 units to run Shale.
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The shutdown was primarily an economic decision, but the reinvestment is part economic, part future looking technology
If it was purely economic, Shell would have salvaged it's best running refinery. Convent just didn't happen to have Ethylene Crackers onsite to integrate with.
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but the reinvestment is part economic
They'll be late to the party on any bio/ green investments.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:53 am to ragincajun03
Let us not forgot that many of the ideas found in “environmental justice” movement were fomented by admitted Marxist and domestic terrorist, and Obama’s buddy, Bill Ayers.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:56 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there are more carbon capture and biofuel facilities being built in Louisiana and Texas than other states.
The “Inflation Reduction Act” contains a bunch of incentives for Carbon Capture and Green Hydrogen production.
The Gulf coast geologically is a very good place for CCs projects, I’m working on projects in the planning stages for 4 different companies right now. The funny thing is the environmental wackos are putting lots of effort into opposing CCS because they see it as a way to extend fossil fuels use. It seems counterintuitive, but makes it obvious protecting the environment isn’t actually their end game.
There are also bonus tax credits for green hydrogen in areas of historic fossil fuel development. Texas and LA will be a huge Hydrogen hub, the infrastructure is being planned and permitted already.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:13 am to ithad2bme
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The Gulf coast geologically is a very good place for CCs projects, I’m working on projects in the planning stages for 4 different companies right now. The funny thing is the environmental wackos are putting lots of effort into opposing CCS because they see it as a way to extend fossil fuels use. It seems counterintuitive, but makes it obvious protecting the environment isn’t actually their end game.
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This is about revenue generation for governments and special interest groups. Every time you hear about these new environmental causes, the first thing they talk about is taxation. The one thing you hardly ever hear about is what they're going to use the revenue for.
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