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re: Biden backs down to Putin. Refuses to authorize long range missile attacks into Russia
Posted on 9/20/24 at 4:25 am to boosiebadazz
Posted on 9/20/24 at 4:25 am to boosiebadazz
quote:What you fail to mention, or perhaps you don't realize, it the "ballistic missiles flying from Ukrainian territory" would be western (NATO) missiles, using NATO guidance, dependent on NATO satellites, and NATO personnel.
There is a large segment of Donald Trump’s voters who see no problem with ballistic missiles flying into Ukrainian territory from Russia, but see great, tremendous problems with ballistic missiles flying from Ukrainian territory into Russia.
The US made our own retaliatory policy in such circumstances clear 60+ yrs ago. Now, Russia simply intends to enforce our own standards.
As the missiles in question rely on satellite coordination, it is very likely Russian response would then involve taking out multiple global positioning satellites as an initial measure.
However, in addition to disabling military GPS, the spillover into western daily life would be palpable. It would serve as an alarming eye opener for the western public. Things could escalate rapidly from there, or simply stop with humiliated western leaders trying to explain with apologies to their collective public why GPS mapping systems were down.
The casual western indifference to Russian capabilities is mind boggling.
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 4:29 am to boosiebadazz
You really have no understanding of how this war started. I guess you’re still holding on to the tired old trope that Russia is moving into Eastern Europe as well.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 5:37 am to RiverCityTider
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Refuses to authorize long range missile attacks into Russia
Plausible deniability?
Posted on 9/20/24 at 5:49 am to RiverCityTider
For once, Biden makes a wise decision and THAT'S your opinion?????
That's an idiotic view considering where this conflict with Russia will eventually lead.
The best thing for the worlds future is to stop it and for America to stop trying to control the world. This ain't 1950. We aren't the dominant force we used to be.
If we want to be that way again, we need to stop and get our nation and its federal government turned and headed in the right direction.
That's an idiotic view considering where this conflict with Russia will eventually lead.
The best thing for the worlds future is to stop it and for America to stop trying to control the world. This ain't 1950. We aren't the dominant force we used to be.
If we want to be that way again, we need to stop and get our nation and its federal government turned and headed in the right direction.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 6:23 am to ole man
We started this? Do tell.
Russians move rig election in Crimea. Ukraine stays restrained. Then the Russians move into Donbas. Ukrainians defend their home turf...but Ukrainians bad for resisting. Russians begin a full scale attack on Ukraine. Shell Kharkiv, flatten Mariupol....Ukrainians fault. They should have just rolled over. Russians send tank columns down towards Kyiv....get beaten back....but that shows Putin's restraint....I get it. Putin is a misunderstood victim in all of this. He's fighting for Christendom....right? A savage war for peace. He gets to do what he wants. Can attack from his territory, set up supply depots in his territory to attack Ukraine. But oh, the Ukrainians are bad guys for taking the fight to them.
You say you are against the Ukrainians because it is costing us. You are against Ukraine because Biden is in office, pure and simple. Replace Biden with Trump under the same conditions and he's a great man.
So disingenuous
Russians move rig election in Crimea. Ukraine stays restrained. Then the Russians move into Donbas. Ukrainians defend their home turf...but Ukrainians bad for resisting. Russians begin a full scale attack on Ukraine. Shell Kharkiv, flatten Mariupol....Ukrainians fault. They should have just rolled over. Russians send tank columns down towards Kyiv....get beaten back....but that shows Putin's restraint....I get it. Putin is a misunderstood victim in all of this. He's fighting for Christendom....right? A savage war for peace. He gets to do what he wants. Can attack from his territory, set up supply depots in his territory to attack Ukraine. But oh, the Ukrainians are bad guys for taking the fight to them.
You say you are against the Ukrainians because it is costing us. You are against Ukraine because Biden is in office, pure and simple. Replace Biden with Trump under the same conditions and he's a great man.
So disingenuous
Posted on 9/20/24 at 6:50 am to bhtigerfan
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Well this is due to the fact that the corrupt fricks in Ukraine were illegally bribing numerous politicians in the US and then basically conspired with the Democrats to impeach Trump despite having the evidence to acquit him and help convict the actual criminals in our own country.
They bribed Biden, Pelosi, Romney and I'm sure many others through their kids with US tax dollars. Ukraine is and should have always been Europe's problem.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 6:51 am to RiverCityTider
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Biden backs down to Putin
Peach Foty Six!
Posted on 9/20/24 at 6:53 am to RiverCityTider
That’s why you don’t make empty threats. Now all his leverage is gone: Their foreign policy is fricking horrendous
Posted on 9/20/24 at 6:58 am to KiwiHead
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Why should Russia( proper) be spared the shite that they are putting up with. What makes the borscht eaters so special? Why do they get to shell Ukrainian cities, but if the Ukrainians return the courtesy, that's bad.
Because poke The Bear, ding dong
Posted on 9/20/24 at 7:01 am to KiwiHead
You’re a dumb arse,who’s frickin the President. What’s plain and simple a fact you can’t or not able to grasp is Under Trump this never would have happened.
And to set the record straight I am conservative from Louisiana and think our speaker should be run the frick off he’s been you dems best friend
Who’s being disingenuous
And to set the record straight I am conservative from Louisiana and think our speaker should be run the frick off he’s been you dems best friend
Who’s being disingenuous
Posted on 9/20/24 at 7:03 am to ole man
What ever became of the line in the sand?
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 7:04 am
Posted on 9/20/24 at 7:04 am to RiverCityTider
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Because the Russians consider long range attacks into Russia by US / British technology
and personnel to be an attack by the United States on Russia and will respond against the US
Exactly
It's kind of odd how some posters come across so smug and can't comprehend these missiles are satellite guided to their targets and you know what Ukraine doesn't have, but the US does? Satellites.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 7:05 am to KiwiHead
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Why do they get to shell Ukrainian cities, but if the Ukrainians return the courtesy, that's bad.
It's not a question of Ukraine being justified in returning fire.
Ukraine can shoot back all it wants.
The question posed here is, should the US and NATO start shelling Russia?
Posted on 9/20/24 at 7:15 am to ole man
You are.
MAGA was cheerleading the selection of Mike Johnson since you brought him into the conversation.
No fan of Biden but less of a fan of Putin.
Congratulations on being a "conservative" from Louisiana.
MAGA was cheerleading the selection of Mike Johnson since you brought him into the conversation.
No fan of Biden but less of a fan of Putin.
Congratulations on being a "conservative" from Louisiana.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 7:16 am to boosiebadazz
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There is a large segment of Donald Trump’s voters who see no problem with ballistic missiles flying into Ukrainian territory from Russia, but see great, tremendous problems with ballistic missiles flying from Ukrainian territory into Russia.
When you point out this mindset is perfectly aligned with the interests of Vladimir Putin and Russia, you get called some type of sky-screamer.
It’s the weirdest thing!
Considering the US provoked this war over the last few decades, and the fact that this will eventually lead to a nuclear exchange, the US should step up and work towards peace.
Russia has been willing to talk peace two weeks after the invasion, the US won't allow it.
The reality is that the longer this goes, the more land and lives Ukraine loses. That's a fact.
Russia isn't going away and they aren't "collapsing".
Posted on 9/20/24 at 7:22 am to DBama1
quote:
quote:
If I'm the Ukrainians I find a work around. Why should Russia( proper) be spared the shite that they are putting up with. What makes the borscht eaters so special? Why do they get to shell Ukrainian cities, but if the Ukrainians return the courtesy, that's bad. Remember those fricks started this
frick Ukraine
Exactly, maybe because they are OUR missiles, maybe because it is OUR money running their country? Just a couple of thoughts......
They are free to spend their own money paying their civil servants, military and retirees, and building their own rockets. Rather than hanging out in the 70 million dollar vineyard we bought and bitching about what they dont have.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 7:42 am to KiwiHead
The people of Crimea and Donbas have always considered themselves Russian, there were no "fake" elections.
Russia is just giving them back their soverignty
Russia is just giving them back their soverignty
Posted on 9/20/24 at 8:34 am to KiwiHead
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MAGA was cheerleading the selection of Mike Johnson since you brought him into the conversation.
I was one cheering not now. Because I can think and see
Question for you,how you think USA would feel if China a Russia built military bases in Mexico. NATO wants to surround Russia with the help of Europe and USA
Putin is looking out for his homeland is he a dick. Yep Europe and USA is playing a very dangerous game. You better hope Trump gets elected or you better have some prepping skills you gonna need em
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:06 am to RiverCityTider
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Not sure Biden has any reason to follow Obama's orders anymore. He is history.
I'm sure he'd like to finish out whatever days he has left without be wacked Chicago-style. I'm also sure he wants to insure, when he does go to that big oven down below, his family gets to hold on to all of the ill-gotten gains they've amassed over the years.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 10:19 am to ole man
So what you are saying is that because Putin is paranoid he can invade his neighbors and lay waste to a few of his cities. So you are saying that because he has bigger and powerful weapons that Ukraine should allow his temper tantrums? You do realize this all started because the people in Ukraine were tired of being run by Putin's corrupt puppets.....they got our corrupt puppets. So he invades Crimea, he then invades Donna's as a response.
I'll let you in on a secret. There's a reason all the former Warsaw Pact countries are now enthusiastic NATO countries along with the Baltic and now Sweden and Finland. None trusts Russia .
Congrats on your "conservative*" anointing. Did you get a certificate....maybe an NFT, or something?
I'll let you in on a secret. There's a reason all the former Warsaw Pact countries are now enthusiastic NATO countries along with the Baltic and now Sweden and Finland. None trusts Russia .
Congrats on your "conservative*" anointing. Did you get a certificate....maybe an NFT, or something?
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