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re: Biden announces more college debt forgivness

Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:01 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:01 am to
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Maybe try not being such a stuck up a-hole about it

Other than my responses to Mr. OCD, which posts have been in the voice of a "stuck up a-hole" ITT?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:01 am to
Wonder what % of the students getting forgiveness didn't even fricking graduate.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:01 am to
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Also, I always thought "fixes" to laws had to go through Congress....


Not always, but, even then, they did.
Posted by i am dan
NC
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:01 am to
dp
This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 8:02 am
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30735 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:03 am to
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So you are telling me that all $144 billion that he has "forgiven" has been because of this PSLF?


Yes. He’s just taking credit for a program that has been around for 10+ years and the qualifiers just hit the threshold.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:03 am to
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He’s just taking credit for a program that has been around for 10+ years and the qualifiers just hit the threshold.


Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7307 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:04 am to
I don't get the uproar over this. He can claim to be forgiving student loan debt all he wants, but he can't do it unilaterally. It's nothing but the usual blustery hot air the he emit from both ends on a regular basis.

If he can legitimately forgive student loan debt, then I'm gonna run for president on the main plank of forgiving all tax debts owed and unilaterally abolishing the federal income tax.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24781 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:04 am to
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Nobody is "going against" the USSC.


Yes, "he is".
This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 8:05 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:05 am to
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Yes, "he is".


How?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71480 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:06 am to
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Nobody is "going against" the USSC.


Pitbull Biden defender
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:07 am to
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Pitbull Biden defender

Defender of reality, not Biden
This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 8:08 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:08 am to
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Defender of reality, not Biden






Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20026 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:09 am to
These types of policies are disproportionately favorable for higher cost of living states, and likewise unfavorable to states that subsidize the tuition of their in state institutions (like LA).

In the age of fairness and equity, people are very quick to look out for themselves, their individual situation, when evaluating policies that ultimately keep the poor states poor.

This simple observation of human nature is why socialism doesn’t work. There is a natural force working against equity, which is essentially the instinct of survival.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:10 am to
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These types of policies are disproportionately favorable for higher cost of living states

Because they're more educated?

Or something else?
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29184 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:11 am to
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Someone can correct me on that. I think the first generation actually started to hit their 120 payments at the end of the Trump admin, but there were a bunch of bureaucratic issues and chaos. Hence why



The first eligible borrowers hit the 10-year mark in late 2017, but most had issues getting forgiveness (as SPF's link noted).

I was under PSLF at the time but ended up accelerating payments just to get out of the debt early (it ended up being the same as if I had stayed on).
This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 8:15 am
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6192 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:11 am to
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WPA


There are bridges in N.O. city park w WPA markings on them.


You're right. At least ppl had to do something for that, and we got some good shite.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29184 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:13 am to
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Wonder what % of the students getting forgiveness didn't even fricking graduate.


Probably a small amount, under PSLF those students still had to make 120 payments to become eligible.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3957 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:14 am to
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Well yeah you are a scumbag


No, he's a populist.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29184 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:16 am to
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Some borrowers, after making 10 years of payments, found out that they didn’t have the right kind of federal student loan, were in the wrong repayment plan, or worked for an employer that didn’t qualify for forgiveness.


The first is understandable, but I'd love to know how someone didn't know that their employer didn't qualify.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3957 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:17 am to
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In the age of populism, people are very quick to look out for themselves, their individual situation, when evaluating policies


FIFY.
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