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re: Biden administration to ban medical debt from credit reports

Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19262 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:33 pm to
What happens when medical providers start demanding payment in full up-front?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57065 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:33 pm to
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In a sweeping change that could improve millions of Americans’ ability to own a home or buy a car, the Biden administration will propose a rule Tuesday to ban medical debt from credit reports.

The rule, which will be announced by Vice President Kamala Harris and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Director Rohit Chopra, comes as President Joe Biden beefs up his efforts to convince Americans his administration is lowering costs, a chief concern for voters in the upcoming election.


Not sure how a government can dictate what a private business uses to measure credit risk. Yet another unconstitutional overreach that the board leftists love.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57065 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:34 pm to
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What happens when medical providers start demanding payment in full up-front?


If you're white, they already do this. Even though they aren't supposed to.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57065 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:35 pm to
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Rest of the civilized world: "What's 'medical debt'?"


As they are on month 2 waiting to see a doctor.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:36 pm to
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Credit reporting agencies are private companies, no?

They can include whatever they choose.


True but,
They will be audited by the GOPe funded 87,000 irs agents.
They will be investigated by the doj.
The ceo's will have no-knock warrants broadcast on cnn.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52114 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:36 pm to
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What happens when medical providers start demanding payment in full up-front?
most urgent care's around me already require this. as do GP's.

You're not turning away a gunshot victim or someone who's gallbladder exploded without payment up front.

people out here really not understanding what racks up huge medical debt.

it's not getting the flu.
Posted by crap4brain
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2004
2662 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:41 pm to
The only way to fix our medical system mess is to get government completely out of it. Let the free market run its course.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62622 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:42 pm to
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True but


No, it's not true.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8213 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:46 pm to
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What exactly did Obamacare even “fix” again?


It "fixed" the insurance companies' ability to raise premiums and deductibles and pay less to the doctor making the patient more financially responsible for medical care. It didn't HELP anyone that actually had a job. Oh, it FIXED plenty...but it didn't HELP anyone.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18305 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:48 pm to
Just ban balance billing. Insurance has a contracted rate/allowance and companies purposefully charge more than that and bill patient for the rest. Had to pay 800$+ upfront at surgery center before my recent knee surgery.
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 3:40 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60794 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:49 pm to
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Explain this to me like I am a 2 year old. What happens if the entire system, which is broken already, crashes. Could that lead to a concierge medicine explosion where if you want good care you have to actually pay for it up front or have some type of private insurance or membership plan with a certain medical group? Theoretically could this lower the price for everyone paying if freeloaders are not leeching off the system?
Insurance companies make profit. So from a super high view you would have greater competition for the dollar and less money going to manage claims. I dont know how much money Doctors and hospitals spend trying to colllect money or play by the insurance rules..but I bet it is a bunch. So take that money and the insurance profits and that would be the savings to the American people. Then get rid of all the free care they give away that would disappear under the new system and you would see the paying customer realize quite a bit of savings through a lifetime. Now, would the average American save for the high cost senior years? I doubt it. But boy wouldnt it be something for the American economy.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:51 pm to
This doesn't stop the hospital from selling the debt to collection agencies who can then report it under their agency name.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
32667 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:51 pm to
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Rest of the civilized world: "What's 'medical debt'?"



The European countries are only able to do that because they don't have to spend the money on defense that the US provides.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
11790 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:53 pm to
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And y’all are complaining? Y’all ever seen the medical bills from surviving cancer? Some would rather have died than be on the hook for $125,000. Complain all y’all want, this drives a deep nail into big pharma.


Agree. I started having seizures two years ago and during the first one I aspirated and almost drowned on my own stomach acid. I was in the hospital for a week and that bill was flat out shocking
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52114 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:55 pm to
what exactly are we out there "defending"?

Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:57 pm to
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But how will the banks know? If it's not on your credit report... then how will they know you have medical debt?

Do you have any medical debt
"uhh.. nope."
Well, okay then. We have no way of checking anymore, so we'll just have to take your word for it.


Congratulations! You just committed fraud against a federally insured institution thereby making it a federal crime. How's your credit gonna be after 10-20 in prison and a huge fine for restitution to the nation?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62622 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:58 pm to
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This doesn't stop the hospital from selling the debt to collection agencies who can then report it under their agency name.


I don't think this is true based on a quick read of the rule.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9457 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:04 pm to
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A lot of this medical debt is due to people going to the ER for primary care. They’re either uneducated about where to go or they go because they know they won’t be turned away.


No it’s not. People using the ER as a PCP is a huge problem, but you aren’t getting a $200,000 bill for going to the ER for the flu.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100870 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:05 pm to
So hospitals can’t refuse care, and not paying your bill has no consequences. And we are allowing millions across the border who have little money, no insurance, and a known reputation of gaming the system.

What could go wrong
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62622 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:09 pm to
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and not paying your bill has no consequences.


This isn’t true.
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