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re: Biden administration to ban medical debt from credit reports
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:33 pm to crap4brain
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:33 pm to crap4brain
What happens when medical providers start demanding payment in full up-front?
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:33 pm to crap4brain
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In a sweeping change that could improve millions of Americans’ ability to own a home or buy a car, the Biden administration will propose a rule Tuesday to ban medical debt from credit reports.
The rule, which will be announced by Vice President Kamala Harris and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Director Rohit Chopra, comes as President Joe Biden beefs up his efforts to convince Americans his administration is lowering costs, a chief concern for voters in the upcoming election.
Not sure how a government can dictate what a private business uses to measure credit risk. Yet another unconstitutional overreach that the board leftists love.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:34 pm to Tantal
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What happens when medical providers start demanding payment in full up-front?
If you're white, they already do this. Even though they aren't supposed to.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:35 pm to blueagateblues
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Rest of the civilized world: "What's 'medical debt'?"
As they are on month 2 waiting to see a doctor.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:36 pm to Roaad
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Credit reporting agencies are private companies, no?
They can include whatever they choose.
True but,
They will be audited by the GOPe funded 87,000 irs agents.
They will be investigated by the doj.
The ceo's will have no-knock warrants broadcast on cnn.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:36 pm to Tantal
quote:most urgent care's around me already require this. as do GP's.
What happens when medical providers start demanding payment in full up-front?
You're not turning away a gunshot victim or someone who's gallbladder exploded without payment up front.
people out here really not understanding what racks up huge medical debt.
it's not getting the flu.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:41 pm to Byron Bojangles III
The only way to fix our medical system mess is to get government completely out of it. Let the free market run its course.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:42 pm to Tandemjay
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True but
No, it's not true.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:46 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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What exactly did Obamacare even “fix” again?
It "fixed" the insurance companies' ability to raise premiums and deductibles and pay less to the doctor making the patient more financially responsible for medical care. It didn't HELP anyone that actually had a job. Oh, it FIXED plenty...but it didn't HELP anyone.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:48 pm to crap4brain
Just ban balance billing. Insurance has a contracted rate/allowance and companies purposefully charge more than that and bill patient for the rest. Had to pay 800$+ upfront at surgery center before my recent knee surgery.
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:49 pm to Kirk Herbstreit
quote:Insurance companies make profit. So from a super high view you would have greater competition for the dollar and less money going to manage claims. I dont know how much money Doctors and hospitals spend trying to colllect money or play by the insurance rules..but I bet it is a bunch. So take that money and the insurance profits and that would be the savings to the American people. Then get rid of all the free care they give away that would disappear under the new system and you would see the paying customer realize quite a bit of savings through a lifetime. Now, would the average American save for the high cost senior years? I doubt it. But boy wouldnt it be something for the American economy.
Explain this to me like I am a 2 year old. What happens if the entire system, which is broken already, crashes. Could that lead to a concierge medicine explosion where if you want good care you have to actually pay for it up front or have some type of private insurance or membership plan with a certain medical group? Theoretically could this lower the price for everyone paying if freeloaders are not leeching off the system?
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:51 pm to crap4brain
This doesn't stop the hospital from selling the debt to collection agencies who can then report it under their agency name.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:51 pm to blueagateblues
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Rest of the civilized world: "What's 'medical debt'?"
The European countries are only able to do that because they don't have to spend the money on defense that the US provides.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:53 pm to ImJustaBoy
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And y’all are complaining? Y’all ever seen the medical bills from surviving cancer? Some would rather have died than be on the hook for $125,000. Complain all y’all want, this drives a deep nail into big pharma.
Agree. I started having seizures two years ago and during the first one I aspirated and almost drowned on my own stomach acid. I was in the hospital for a week and that bill was flat out shocking
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:55 pm to theballguy
what exactly are we out there "defending"?
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:57 pm to MemphisGuy
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But how will the banks know? If it's not on your credit report... then how will they know you have medical debt?
Do you have any medical debt
"uhh.. nope."
Well, okay then. We have no way of checking anymore, so we'll just have to take your word for it.
Congratulations! You just committed fraud against a federally insured institution thereby making it a federal crime. How's your credit gonna be after 10-20 in prison and a huge fine for restitution to the nation?
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:58 pm to Sidicous
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This doesn't stop the hospital from selling the debt to collection agencies who can then report it under their agency name.
I don't think this is true based on a quick read of the rule.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:04 pm to NineLineBind
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A lot of this medical debt is due to people going to the ER for primary care. They’re either uneducated about where to go or they go because they know they won’t be turned away.
No it’s not. People using the ER as a PCP is a huge problem, but you aren’t getting a $200,000 bill for going to the ER for the flu.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:05 pm to crap4brain
So hospitals can’t refuse care, and not paying your bill has no consequences. And we are allowing millions across the border who have little money, no insurance, and a known reputation of gaming the system.
What could go wrong
What could go wrong
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:09 pm to deltaland
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and not paying your bill has no consequences.
This isn’t true.
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