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re: Biden to sign $15 Minimum wage executive order for federal contractors

Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:00 am to
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:00 am to
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Includes cleaning, maintenance and cafeteria workers as critical to the functioning of the federal government.


It will include the food courts in the exchanges, etc as well... It is almost like they do not even consider 2nd and 3rd order effects of their actions but they really want to destroy everything they touch...
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31578 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:01 am to
I bet most of them are already making that. They've had a gvt. pay scale forever, and it's always been a whole lot more than in the private industry.
Posted by TigerV
Member since Feb 2007
2935 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:16 am to
Can someone explain how this should not be a part of confessional budget authority?
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:21 am to
Dianne Feinstein and her husband should be worried about their future Post Office locations.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:36 am to
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They probably are all paying that much or more already.

Davis-Bacon wages already provide for that.
This EO is meaningless, just like his *presidency
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20870 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:42 am to
Davis-Bacon is for construction contracts.
This executive order is broader, for all federal contracts and nothing short of a circumvention of the recent failed attempt by the Dems in CONgress to raise the minimum wage to $15/hour.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90572 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:47 am to
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They've had a gvt. pay scale forever
True, it doesn't apply to the contractor running the Burger King on Base, at least it didn't in the past.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31578 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:52 am to
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True, it doesn't apply to the contractor running the Burger King on Base, at least it didn't in the past.

I'm sure you are right about the burger king, but it use to apply to cafeteria folks and stuff.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20879 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:58 am to
I see this as a tax increase in disguise. The more private companies pay their employees the more income taxes they pay to Uncle Sam, the more money can be handed out by the Committee for Government Dependency.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90572 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:00 am to
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but it use to apply to cafeteria folks and stuff.
When they were wage scale employees true. Hell most are contracted out now.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13239 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:00 am to
This isn’t a big deal. They’ve been using set Wage Determinations for most types of labor anyway.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31578 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:05 am to
I use to do a lot of contract work on Redstone Arsenal and Marshal Space Flight Center back in the 80s and 90s. We had to pay day laborers from Labor Finders over 12 bucks per hour, even back then.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26490 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:09 am to
Union contracts tied to multiples of minimum wage rejoice.
Posted by sostan
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
1149 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:09 am to
Democrats continue spending your money like it's theirs and endless.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90572 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:27 am to
Not sure how many it impacts.

The move will increase the current minimum wage of $10.95 by nearly 37% by March of next year and continue to tie future increases to inflation.

It will apply to federal workers from cleaning and maintenance staff to food service contractors and laborers, sweeping in tipped workers who were previously left out of the last increase under former President Barack Obama.

White House officials insist it won't increase costs for taxpayers because of benefits including increased worker productivity.

It builds on an order issued by former President Obama, which required federal contractors to be paid $10.10 an hour indexed to inflation. That rate now stands at $10.95 an hour.

The order also indexes the raise to inflation after 2022, and ends the tipped minimum wage for workers such as those offering seasonal recreational services, food servers and shuttle bus drivers LINK
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
5041 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:29 am to
All both of the Federal contractors who actually made under $15. are happy.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28282 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:15 am to
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now all the bids for government projects will be higher.

This cost passed straight to the taxpayers.




Federal contracts are unbelievably complex and almost any project under $2 million can be awarded without bids if it's through a 8A (minority) contractor and most 8A's are nothing more than "shadow" owners and many are tied at the hip with Federal contracting officers.

Hundreds of billions are wasted in this process.
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 11:18 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28282 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:17 am to
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Hell most are contracted out now.


Correct.

Food services,janitorial,transportation,etc are almost all contracted out.
Posted by PlanoPrivateer
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2969 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 3:25 pm to
An E-1 in the Army doesn't make $15.00 per hour in pay. But, depending on how they calculate free food at the mess hall and free housing in a barracks I guess it could get above $15.00. Oh and I almost forgot free medical and clothing, LOL.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 3:46 pm to
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