- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Beto: White Americans Don't Know Full Story of Slavery
Posted on 6/15/19 at 1:03 pm to volod
Posted on 6/15/19 at 1:03 pm to volod
quote:
Do you honestly believe white Southerners pre 1970 would ever be the ones talking about interracial/gay marriage equality and civil rights for non-whites
FDR and his supporters were liberals. Their opponents were not.
You can type 10,000,000 words and not get around that reality.
When it comes to massive government solutions, the only difference between Democrats of the 30s and now is that today, they want MORE
This post was edited on 6/15/19 at 1:09 pm
1
Posted on 6/15/19 at 1:11 pm to ShortyRob
If there had been an ACTUAL switch driven by race politics, Obamacare wouldn't exist and Nancy Pelosi would be pushing for massive tax cuts and deregulation while McConnel moaned about how little in taxes the rich pay
Posted on 6/15/19 at 1:11 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
FDR and LBJ weren't conservatives and their REPUBLICAN opponents weren't liberals
What is a conservative to you?
quote:
holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion.
That's the standard defined above. As stated in my aforementioned link, the strategy shifted with Democratic candidates because Republicans already got what they wanted from the government. Big business needed government for infrastructure, currency, and banking protections.
When being big government was no longer beneficial to them, they dropped it.
Posted on 6/15/19 at 1:19 pm to KCT
quote:I think he ate too much Texas dirt.
Beto
Posted on 6/15/19 at 1:25 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
there had been an ACTUAL switch driven by race politics, Obamacare wouldn't exist and Nancy Pelosi would be pushing for massive tax cuts and deregulation while McConnel moaned about how little in taxes the rich pay
Southern whites (and some Northern ones too) didnt like the Civil Rights Act of 1964. You can't change that either.
And doesn't it seem strange that shortly after the act passed, there was a massive shift in politics leading to the election of Reagan. A president that was at best neutral about it.
If that act were never passed, you could still have liberals pushing social programs and conservatives pushing lower taxes. Those are mutually exclusive from Civil Rights.
And again, I never said race was the deciding factor. That honor goes to economic changes favoring big business over agriculture.
Posted on 6/15/19 at 1:40 pm to Bulldogblitz
Chinese in America are enslaving other Chinese.
South Americans in America are enslaving other South Americans.
Saudis in America are enslaving other Saudis.
South Americans in America are enslaving other South Americans.
Saudis in America are enslaving other Saudis.
Posted on 6/15/19 at 1:57 pm to volod
quote:
And if we're being honest, both wars you mentioned didnt neccesarily grant rights to Blacks by themselves. The Civil War with a Union victory assured freedom but not civil rights. Same goes for WW2. Stating that fact isnt an insult to the soldiers who died or the families. It's the reality of how our political system outside the battlefield has failed its citizenry at many historical times.
Reality is that our politicians have failed the citizenry many times. It's the biggest reason Trump won, he's not a career politician. And that's the reason the politicians hate/fear him so much. It's also why he accomplished more GOOD in his first 100 days than any of them did in their entire term.
So why should we ever elect another career politician? That's the root of all this turmoil surrounding the President.
Posted on 6/15/19 at 2:02 pm to PorkSammich
quote:
I wish Africans didn’t start slavery then sell their families off for money.
For colored beads!
Posted on 6/15/19 at 2:06 pm to KCT
Beto clearly has no idea slavery still exists in Africa. Nice red herring tactic though.
Posted on 6/15/19 at 2:57 pm to KCT
How many trillions have been spent on the Great LBJ New Deal after 50 years??
Posted on 6/15/19 at 3:11 pm to LSUbest
quote:
I wish Africans didn’t start slavery then sell their families off for money.
Pretty shrewd business men, selling the deadbeats in the village for wampum.
Out politicians never learn. Remember when Castro emptied his jails and sent them to America when Jimmy Carter was President.
After that wonderful "Civil Rights" bill, we take deadbeats from all over the world, if they hate America.
Posted on 6/15/19 at 3:19 pm to KCT
No Beto, it's just your dumbass that doesn't know the story of slavery.
Stop lumping white Americans in with your ignorant arse.
Moron comes across as a Hollywood celebrity who thinks whatever he knows, the American people know less.
Stop lumping white Americans in with your ignorant arse.
Moron comes across as a Hollywood celebrity who thinks whatever he knows, the American people know less.
Posted on 6/15/19 at 4:28 pm to KCT
While this topic is stupid, if a politician isn’t pandering for votes he won’t be a politician very long.
Posted on 6/15/19 at 5:35 pm to volod
Yall can dance around this all you want but Democrats have ALWAYS been the party of restricting freedom and radical violence.
The Republican party has always been the party of individual Freedom.
Irrefutable facts.
The Republican party has always been the party of individual Freedom.
Irrefutable facts.
Posted on 6/15/19 at 10:49 pm to volod
quote:What does that have to do with Democrats being liberal or not?
Southern whites (and some Northern ones too) didnt like the Civil Rights Act of 1964. You can't change that either.
quote:Strange? No. It's not terribly strange that after the country found itself experiencing double digit inflation with high unemployment and double digit interest rates that voter rebelled. A newly arrived alien from another galaxy could have called that one.
And doesn't it seem strange that shortly after the act passed, there was a massive shift in politics leading to the election of Reagan. A president that was at best neutral about it.
quote:So, in other words, they didn't switch. Thanks. THAT was my point. Sheesh.
If that act were never passed, you could still have liberals pushing social programs and conservatives pushing lower taxes. Those are mutually exclusive from Civil Rights.
FDR would have been a Democrat today. Hoover would be a Republican today.
Pelosi would have been a Democrat in 1932. McConnel would have been a Republican in 1932.
Your ENTIRE argument and the ENTIRE "switched" narrative is rubbish
Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:35 am to bmy
quote:
Slavery is old news and if they were smart dems would pivot to the atrocities during the civil rights movement and injustices that came after.
Why? It was primarily their party.
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 12:43 am
Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:39 am to KCT
Pandering bitch
Posted on 6/16/19 at 5:45 am to KCT
Yes he’s a douche. But it is sort of true. Most Americans believe Lincoln was a national hero and not racist.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:08 am to bmy
quote:
Slavery is old news and if they were smart dems would pivot to the atrocities during the civil rights movement and injustices that came after. Just over 50 years ago is far more relevant
Except for the fact that it was democrats who did all of those bad things.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:21 am to Loserman
Democrats are divisive...on so many issues....
When I think of them, I think of terms like diabolical.
When I think of them, I think of terms like diabolical.
Page 5 of 6
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News