re: Ben Shapiro talking about abortion (mildly graphic pic inside, probably NSFW)

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Any doctor that performs such an abortion should be shot

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Same goes for the mother, as well.

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Yall go about this the wrong way by trying to outright ban the entire practice. Just do what Europe does and fight to end late term abortions. Late term abortions are 200 times worse than the morning after pill and are 100 times worse than an abortion at 3 months. Morning after pill should be subsidized and easily accessible

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This is why our county is doomed. This is how illogically stupid our population has become. The location and age of an organism, whether it is a person or a coach roach does not determine what species it is or if it is alive.

Viability does Not determine if you are human are not. If the bottom half of you body gets crushed. You are not going to live. But guess what? You are still alive... you are still a human,.. and you are now no longer viable.

People that think location or age make a fetus not human are just plain stupid or evil. There are no other choices.

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According to Wilde, abortion is a “basic human right.” 

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Why does it stop at birth? Not one liberal has ever been able to explain that to me. If it is the choice of the mother, and she's allowed to Snuff the life of that child out right before birth, then why not when it's 2 years old? Or 5?

If it is a basic human right for you to kill another human being simply because they are inconveniencing you, does not set an extremely dangerous precedent?

or put a gun to your head and pull the trigger !

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People say that if they ever came for guns there would be a war in the street. But there isn't a war in the street for baby murder so I'm pretty sure everyone would bend over and take it

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Doubt it

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This is where Shapiro shines. He just needs to stay in his lane.


He just needs to lay off his moral grandstanding when it comes to Trump

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i've been following Shipiro quite a bit and I have never been off-put by his speaking out against Trump - the few instances I have seen him do it, he was correct.

I am not willing to join a "Trump is God" cult - he does things every day that I don't like - mainly in the way he does it. I refuse to worship the man - I will support his agenda to the hilt - as long as he sticks to what I know of it. But the man himself is deserving of critique.

I have only seen the u-tube videos that pop up on the side of my screen - I don't 'follow' his pod cast (or however you say that) Maybe he has said a bunch of stuff I know nothing about.

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He calls balls and strikes as he sees them regardless of whether people on his own side like it or not. That's admirable

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The problem is he occasionally makes a call like the one in the dome Sunday.

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to me this is the biggest sign of the moral decline of this country... abortions -- legal or illegal -- have existed forever, and I know there are situations where they make sense.. but only in recent times have celebrities and politicians started openly celebrating the ability to end a life. Aborting a 39 week old fetus... how far of a jump is it from there, to actually birthing them and snapping their necks in the delivery room? or two weeks later when they won't stop crying? or when you get that big promotion but just can't have a 2-month old baby right now..

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Abortion is also the main reason that most of the Social Services that the left loves are failing.

In the US alone around 60 million people have been aborted. This is the reason why we have an aging population. We lost 60 million taxpayers to the altar of abortion.

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Abortion is also the main reason that most of the Social Services that the left loves are failing.

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I'm fine with this , although I would place more blame on people just deciding to have smaller families. Many of the women having abortions are poor, and I highly doubt the additional offspring would be a net gain financially.

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I am not willing to join a "Trump is God" cult - he does things every day that I don't like - mainly in the way he does it. I refuse to worship the man - I will support his agenda to the hilt - as long as he sticks to what I know of it. But the man himself is deserving of critique.

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This. I'm MAGA as hell and proudly voted for Trump (and plan to do so again in 2020), but I've never 100% agreed with ANY president in my lifetime, whether I voted for them or not. Too many creepy fricks on both sides of the aisle that hold up the president they voted for as some unassailable avatar for morality and all that is good and just. Never have a bad thing to say--I don't like those folks. I can't even agree with my WIFE on a ton of shite, and I love her to death. So how am I going to somehow be in absolute lockstep with some stranger I've never met thousands of miles away in Washington? Even if I support the overwhelming majority of his agenda (which I do), the man ain't perfect, and I think folks who are honest with themselves are bound to disagree with him on some things. And that's perfectly ok. It doesn't make you less MAGA or invalidate your vote or anything.

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I have only seen the u-tube videos that pop up on the side of my screen - I don't 'follow' his pod cast (or however you say that) Maybe he has said a bunch of stuff I know nothing about.

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I've noticed most of the folks on the poliboard who hate Shapiro only latch onto some random twitter "gotchas," disagree with a couple of his more well-known takes, don't like anyone who isn't 100% lockstep with Trump, or despise conservatives who are pro-Israel. Very rarely do I find a conservative who hates him who listens to his show regularly (I listen for hours each week while I'm at work--his is one of the outlets in my regular/eclectic news rotation). Ben takes the left to the cleaners at length with great regularity. Whenever something good happens for Trump, he's downright gleeful to talk about it, and doesn't hide that fact.

I don't agree with 100% of Shapiro's takes, either (I can say that for any pundit), but I lend more credence to him than to pundits who never have a cross word to say about anything Trump does.