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Being pro-choice in 2019 is the equivalent to being pro-slavery in 1860
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:20 pm
Both are morally repugnant positions that utilize similar arguments when their pros are weighted against their cons.
"Her body, her choice" is the same argument as "You can't tell a man what to do with his own property."
In both instances, we are dealing with human life. In 2019, that life just so happens to reside within a mother's womb instead of within a plantation.
Similarly, those who are pro-choice often try to appeal to fiscal conservatives, telling them to think about the money we're saving by eliminating unwanted pregnancies. Those who are pro-slavery argued that keeping four million Americans enslaved meant that poor whites didn't have to worry about getting their jobs stolen by cheaper labor.
At the end of the day, this abortion argument comes down to the same semantics that were argued in the abolition debate 150+ years ago. Those who are pro-choice, just like those who were pro-slavery, are on the wrong side of the argument on this one.
And just like slavery, I fear that it will take a constitutional amendment to settle argument.
"Her body, her choice" is the same argument as "You can't tell a man what to do with his own property."
In both instances, we are dealing with human life. In 2019, that life just so happens to reside within a mother's womb instead of within a plantation.
Similarly, those who are pro-choice often try to appeal to fiscal conservatives, telling them to think about the money we're saving by eliminating unwanted pregnancies. Those who are pro-slavery argued that keeping four million Americans enslaved meant that poor whites didn't have to worry about getting their jobs stolen by cheaper labor.
At the end of the day, this abortion argument comes down to the same semantics that were argued in the abolition debate 150+ years ago. Those who are pro-choice, just like those who were pro-slavery, are on the wrong side of the argument on this one.
And just like slavery, I fear that it will take a constitutional amendment to settle argument.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:34 pm to RollTide1987
Ironically, dems are/were the party of both child murder and slavery.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:36 pm to RollTide1987
I think the comparison is too extreme, but they do have similar talking points
Ironically, abortion in America started in the south in the 1800s so slave owners could have sex with attractive female slaves without consequence
Ironically, abortion in America started in the south in the 1800s so slave owners could have sex with attractive female slaves without consequence
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:36 pm to RollTide1987
I’m pro fetus slavery. Where does that put me?
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:36 pm to RollTide1987
I was thinking this when I was responding to the Roe versus Wade thread. Have read four books on Lincoln in the past six weeks (midway through the fifth right now). And this is our defining issue as it was his.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:37 pm to RollTide1987
This is why Republicans win. They have the ultimate virtue signal.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:39 pm to crewdepoo
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I’m pro fetus slavery. Where does that put me?
Where’s it put you? It puts you firmly in the dumbassery camp!
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:43 pm to Wolfhound45
I think there’s bigger issues then whether we kill a negative year old fetus
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:46 pm to RollTide1987
You’re wrong, though. Abolition did not violate anyone’s constitutional or human rights. Banning abortion, even if we were to determine that life to be legally protected begins at conception, necessarily violates constitutional (privacy, as interpreted in Amendment XIV) and human (reproductive autonomy) rights.
Being pro-choice isn’t equivalent to anything.
Being pro-choice isn’t equivalent to anything.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:48 pm to xiv
quote:You need to study the issue of slavery more. As abhorrent as it was, it was a constitutional issue through and through.
Abolition did not violate anyone’s constitutional or human rights.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:50 pm to crewdepoo
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I’m pro fetus slavery.
How does this manifest itself in your behavior?
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:53 pm to crewdepoo
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I think there’s bigger issues then whether we kill a negative year old fetus
What are some of these issues?
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Too extreme? Pro choice is actually worse than pro slavery. One is literally murder.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:55 pm to xiv
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Abolition did not violate anyone’s constitutional or human rights.
Yeah...you might want to read up on the constitutional impacts of abolition. The South’s whole argument was that slavery was protected by the Constitution.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:56 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:where did you get this little nugget of crap? People have been taking remedies to try and terminate pregnancies since prehistory
Ironically, abortion in America started in the south in the 1800s so slave owners could have sex with attractive female slaves without consequence
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:57 pm to RollTide1987
We can outlaw abortions again,but we won't stop them.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:59 pm to Clark14
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We can outlaw abortions again,but we won't stop them.
So why not legalize murder and theft then if that’s the argument?
Posted on 5/12/19 at 4:00 pm to RollTide1987
They both equate property with human life.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 4:03 pm to Clark14
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We can outlaw abortions again,but we won't stop them
Still agree with that when you replace abortion with firearm?
Posted on 5/12/19 at 4:06 pm to RollTide1987
Pro-choice women are slaves. Gotta keep them un-pregnant so they can service more.
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