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re: Being a Christian has nothing to do with the Israeli government & war machine
Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:44 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:44 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Totally wrong, as usual. You have to throw out large parts of the Bible to come up with an excuse to turn our backs on Israel. Also, love the arguments that because Israel didn't have a homeland for nearly 1,900 years that somehow that nullifies the argument that they are God's chosen people. If anything, it's further proof that they are.
Israel has been punished by God before. They were slaves in Egypt, carried away to Babylon, conquered by Rome, murdered in Germany, and every time they've come back. If you don't see God's hand in that then you're being willfully ignorant.
Israel has been punished by God before. They were slaves in Egypt, carried away to Babylon, conquered by Rome, murdered in Germany, and every time they've come back. If you don't see God's hand in that then you're being willfully ignorant.
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:56 pm to RollTide1987
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Paul wrote those words at a time when the vast majority of Christians still worshipped as Jews.
They prayed and taught in the Synagogues and aligned almost 100% with the Jewish faith and traditions.
Absolutely not. In fact, the very first council of the church elders was over a dispute between Jewish(race) Christians and Gentile Christians, you can find it in Acts 15. Paul and Barnabas were having great revivals all over, only to discover that certain Jewish Christians were going behind them trying to make the new converts follow the law of Moses. So they all go back to Jerusalem to hash it out, Peter, Paul, Barnabas, and James all speak and at the end, they decide that the ceremonial laws of Moses have no place.
The idea that there wasn't a separation until the destruction of the temple is absurd. These people were having church in their houses, by rivers, in secret places. There was a clear distinction.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:58 pm to texas tortilla
That's a great video, and historically accurate
the one minor disagreement I possibly have is that I believe Trump bombed an ISIS camp in northern Syria, not an official Syrian govt base - ISIS being an enemy trespasser in the region
I could be wrong
the one minor disagreement I possibly have is that I believe Trump bombed an ISIS camp in northern Syria, not an official Syrian govt base - ISIS being an enemy trespasser in the region
I could be wrong
Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:58 pm to TigersHuskers
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Parents aren't boomers neither were grandparents.
The boomers being confused about this is hilarious.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:00 pm to el Gaucho
Any clue as to the vote numbers when the U.N............the U.N. not U.S. voted Israel into existence? But, geeze, all the typical anti-Jew phrases....which Goebbels used to perfection....keep popping up here. But "killed Jesus" is the personification of hate for the Jews. To repeat myself, won't any country in the Middle East take in any of the Palestinians? Egypt just this week deported pro-Palestinian protestors.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:02 pm to tigger1
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Yes, modern Israel is the same people of ancient Israel.
There’s no hope for some of you. If you are a Christian and think this , I suggest you read your Bible.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:07 pm to Goombaw
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they are God's chosen people.
So an infinite being that created an infinite universe, with infinite worlds and surely infinite types of beings has a chosen people?
Maybe they are chosen because like all chosen people, they wrote the book.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:13 pm to tigerfan24736
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Romans 11:1 "I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin."
Paul didn't believe God had replaced Israel with the church, and he was the Apostle to the Gentiles.
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Revelation 7:4 "And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel."
Show me where the church is ever split into twelve tribes? This is at the very end of the world. God will preserve the nation of Israel to the very end, because He promised He would, and He never breaks His promises.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:31 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Genesis 12:3: "I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you".
nd I will curse him who curses you". This promise, made to Abraham
Numbers 24:9 echoes this sentiment: "Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed, and whoever curses Israel will be cursed". T
nd I will curse him who curses you". This promise, made to Abraham
Numbers 24:9 echoes this sentiment: "Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed, and whoever curses Israel will be cursed". T
Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:41 pm to YouKnowImRight
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Christianity was, in the words of Paul, grafted in. The tree still stands.
The Gentiles were grafted in, not Christianity.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:49 pm to 756
Jesus cursed the fig tree, which represented unbelieving Israel, who had the appearance of godliness but no fruit of it.
In Romans 9-11, Paul speaks of Israel of God’s covenantal people being branches cut off from the tree of life so that the engrafting of the Gentiles would cause them to repent and turn to Christ.
The remnant of Israel remains, but as Paul says, not all who are Israel are so by blood, but by faith. Only those who believe the promises of God by faith are partakers of the covenant promises of everlasting life in Christ.
No one should be “cursing” Israel but God, because that is His prerogative to do so, but we are not to view unbelieving Jews as our spiritual brothers. There is but one body of Jesus Christ, and that is His Church, comprised of Jew and Gentle who trust in Jesus for their salvation. Anyone who rejects Christ as the Messiah, whether Jew or Gentle, will receive their just punishment in Hell.
We should pray for the salvation of all, including the Jews, but they are not our brothers if they reject our Lord.
In Romans 9-11, Paul speaks of Israel of God’s covenantal people being branches cut off from the tree of life so that the engrafting of the Gentiles would cause them to repent and turn to Christ.
The remnant of Israel remains, but as Paul says, not all who are Israel are so by blood, but by faith. Only those who believe the promises of God by faith are partakers of the covenant promises of everlasting life in Christ.
No one should be “cursing” Israel but God, because that is His prerogative to do so, but we are not to view unbelieving Jews as our spiritual brothers. There is but one body of Jesus Christ, and that is His Church, comprised of Jew and Gentle who trust in Jesus for their salvation. Anyone who rejects Christ as the Messiah, whether Jew or Gentle, will receive their just punishment in Hell.
We should pray for the salvation of all, including the Jews, but they are not our brothers if they reject our Lord.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:07 pm to Goombaw
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You have to throw out large parts of the Bible to come up with an excuse to turn our backs on Israel.
So go there. “Christians” like you are the worst. Your little cult was completely unknown in Christianity for 2000 years, but here we are.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:14 pm to texas tortilla
and...at the 12 minute mark...it would be better for America to "do it for them" in regards to attacking Iran, because it would be better for Iran to retaliate against American citizens instead of Israeli citizens
...this was the opinion of "American" network news
...this was the opinion of "American" network news
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:20 pm to Goombaw
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Paul didn't believe God had replaced Israel with the church, and he was the Apostle to the Gentiles
Yet nowhere in your quote is "Jews"
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Show me where the church is ever split into twelve tribes? This is at the very end of the world. God will preserve the nation of Israel to the very end, because He promised He would, and He never breaks His promises
Also, nowhere in your second quote is the word "Jews".
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:22 pm to FriendofBaruch
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You would really like to spit on the "so called Christians" then, as is your custom? sure seems like it, you mental midget
a good thing you tucked tail and disappeared from our little conversation
Still name calling is all you got. And apparently, unlike you I have a life off the internet.
And no I dont spit on Christians at all. I have a problem with hate filled hypocrites. Those that That claim to be Christians but are full of hate. 1 John Chapter 4 Talks all about this. Specifically vs 19-21
Vs 19: If someone says, 'I love God,' and yet he hates his brother or sister, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother and sister whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.
Please comment I can already see your angry rebuttle.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:26 pm to Goombaw
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Goombaw
So you read the Bible, but when you get to Galatians, all the sudden you can't read...
I see
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:31 pm to Keltic Tiger
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But "killed Jesus" is the personification of hate for the Jews. To repeat myself, won't any country in the Middle East take in any of the Palestinians? Egypt just this week deported pro-Palestinian protestors.
So again, for the Nth time, you refuse to acknowledge that many practicing Christians are actually Palestinians...
So you're basking in lies, and you love basking in lies
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:33 pm to Mo Jeaux
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So go there. “Christians” like you are the worst. Your little cult was completely unknown in Christianity for 2000 years, but here we are.
Please do tell, what "Christianity" are you representing on this board. Please tell us who is teaching your truth ? BTW 2000 years ago, Jesus was just a year and a half into his ministry and not a single book of the NT bible had yet to be written and wouldn't be for another 40 years.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:33 pm to tigerfan24736
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There’s no hope for some of you. If you are a Christian and think this , I suggest you read your Bible.
Amen brother
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:34 pm to TigersHuskers
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Once the boomers die off Zionism in America is fricked.
Agreed
But that's going to be 10+ years
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