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Before The Island, there was the little book.

Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:10 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:10 am


Honestly, I don’t remember all the big names that came out & really don’t recall Chuck being a client.

Knowing his wife though, maybe he gets a pass?
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21742 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:15 am to
Its not a coincidence that both her and Epstein were suicided.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
Location: Classified
Member since Nov 2011
38981 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:17 am to
Do you blame Chuck?


Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23234 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:19 am to
As long as the hookers involved are of age, aren’t trafficked and the politicians using them aren’t being blackmailed I truly don’t care.

The whole world would be better off if prostitution were legalized and mild regulations were applied.
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
5166 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:19 am to
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Its not a coincidence that both her and Epstein were suicided.


Fleiss isn’t dead.
This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 9:21 am
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
33574 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:22 am to
Finally realized who Schumer looks like...






This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 9:23 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57819 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:24 am to
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The whole world would be better off if prostitution were legalized and mild regulations were applied.


This same mindset was applied towards drugs. And now we see the zombie landscapes that those are responsible for.

It may not be "small government" of me, but in order to have a civilized society, you have to put limits on some things that could cause harm to others.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23234 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:36 am to
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you have to put limits on some things that could cause harm to others.

How is it harmful to others as long as the people involved aren’t coerced?

Sex is legal.

Casual sex on apps is huge business.

We readily accept that sex is fine after buying someone a dinner and drinks, but if they get cash directly it’s somehow completely different? How?

I’ve never used a hooker and never plan to but I can’t for the life of me understand allowing legalized gambling, drinking or strip clubs while somehow turning up our noses at allowing consenting adults to contract for this?

How much better off would we be if all the incels could just handle their needs safely and professionally?

Why is it ok to film a sex scene for internet sale but not to have sex for money on an individual basis?

We can have a separate discussion on drug abuse and legalization, but that’s an apples and oranges analogy IMO.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:38 am to
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politicians using them aren’t being blackmailed


If they are using hookers or escorts, you can rest assured information is being collected for leverage or blackmail or both...
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22859 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:38 am to
Either Chuckie is married to a man or an extremely wealthy jewish woman.
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:43 am to
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How is it harmful to others as long as the people involved aren’t coerced?


1. It's immoral. Across basically all of history. (I know you'll argue about this so go to #2). You vow to someone when you marry them.

2. All this does is lead to blackmail, coerce, intimidate, manipulate. It will be heald over their head as a politcian. Even if the "madam" wouldn't do it, another foreign nation is surrely keeping tabs on our politicians. Tale as old as time.
This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 9:44 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23234 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 9:58 am to
quote:

If they are using hookers or escorts, you can rest assured information is being collected for leverage or blackmail or both...

Right now it’s a crime, if it were legalized there wouldn’t be nearly the same risk of blackmail.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23234 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:09 am to
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1. It's immoral. Across basically all of history. (I know you'll argue about this so go to #2). You vow to someone when you marry them.

Gambling
Drinking
Porn
Premarital sex
Homosexuality

All of those things are immoral from a historical judeo-Christian standpoint, yet all of them are currently legal.

Do you plan to ban any of those or is it just prostitution you have a problem with and if so why?

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2. All this does is lead to blackmail, coerce, intimidate, manipulate. It will be heald over their head as a politcian. Even if the "madam" wouldn't do it, another foreign nation is surrely keeping tabs on our politicians. Tale as old as time.

I mean prostitution is legal right now in Europe. Have you ever heard the going rate for hookers at a G7 meeting or Davos?

Despite that when’s the last time you heard of a politician stepping down for using one over there?

It doesn’t happen because it’s legal and no one cares.

In the US it’s grounds for blackmail because it’s against the law and carries a moral stigma particularly on the right.

I’m not arguing for married people to use hookers, I’m suggesting anyone claiming biblical law as a justification for banning it while allowing and using bars, gambling and porn is acting in a morally inconsistent way.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95589 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:16 am to
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Fleiss isn’t dead.


Yeah, I think folks are mixing up the D.C. madam (Deborah Jean Palfrey) and the Hollywood madam (Heidi Fleiss).

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55728 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:25 am to
quote:

How is it harmful to others as long as the people involved aren’t coerced?


1. It's immoral. Across basically all of history. (I know you'll argue about this so go to #2). You vow to someone when you marry them.

2. All this does is lead to blackmail, coerce, intimidate, manipulate. It will be heald over their head as a politcian. Even if the "madam" wouldn't do it, another foreign nation is surrely keeping tabs on our politicians. Tale as old as time.


People like yourself and myself strive to adhere to a moral standard above that of sinful men, and in doing so we are considered religious zealots for trying to introduce a higher moral standard over a secular society.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:36 am to
quote:

if it were legalized there wouldn’t be nearly the same risk of blackmail.


So, you think there would not be an avenue for blackmail if a person was married and used hookers and escorts?

Also, it would still speak to character and a whole host of other issues that would create problems for a politician...

It is legal in Nevada and I don't see any politicians advertising the fact that they have utilized a hooker...
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
19799 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:41 am to
Pot calling kettle black. Trump made his money before holding office, the Dims make theirs while holding office. Tell me again who is morally bankrupt.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23234 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 10:50 am to
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So, you think there would not be an avenue for blackmail if a person was married and used hookers and escorts?

I think it would be viewed exactly the same way a married pastor having an affair would be viewed.

If it’s someone on the left it wouldn’t make a difference at all because none of them care.

If it’s a Christian conservative running on a moral values platform yeah it would probably hurt them like any affair would. Of course those allegations haven’t hurt Trump at all so as long as you aren’t campaigning in a certain way it might not matter at all.

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It is legal in Nevada and I don't see any politicians advertising the fact that they have utilized a hooker...

Brothels were legal from NYC to SF from colonial times to the early 1900s and were frequented by many politicians in DC and elsewhere without it being a huge scandal, but no you’re absolutely correct they wouldnt want to highlight their visits.
This post was edited on 7/3/24 at 11:27 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47017 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 11:24 am to

Women will demand male pros be legalized as well.

So there’s that.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33585 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 11:27 am to
That bitch is uglier than Dustin Hoffman in Tootsie.
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