re: Based Russia…how a real power negotiates.

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He claimed tonight Stepan Bandera didn't collaborate with Nazis

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No, I didn’t, dumbass. This is an example of how you pretzel words into outright lies. You just can’t stop lying.

I said, more than once, that Bandara was a Ukrainian nationalist whose objective during WWII was to form an independent Ukraine…independent of both the Soviet Union and Germany. That got him arrested by the Gestapo and imprisoned for 3 years.

He was released from prison in 1944 because the Germans thought he could be helpful in rallying other Ukrainian nationalists in slowing down the Soviets moving west across Ukraine.

He wasn’t a Nazi but he was a nationalist fighting for an independent Ukraine. Your tiny brain can’t comprehend that concept.

Then I paraphrased a historical article about Bandara which said he would have partnered with the devil himself if it meant he could achieve his objective of having Ukraine a country free of Soviet or German occupation.

Grow up and stop lying trying to coverup being bitch-slapped.

Russia is a joke of a country hiding behind their nuclear arsenal. If they didn't have nukes the NATO countries would run through those pussies in a month.

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That’s an ignorant statement. It’s in the East and is doing its best to not copy the West in its moral decline.

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That's fine, they're just actually declining in real ways not some squishy social reactionary bullshite way.

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The Russian Federation today is not the Soviet Union.

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The president is a former KGB agent. Maybe I am showing my age but I remember when it was the US and not the Soviets who were the land of the free.

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Explain please…this should be interesting

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Part of the reason the USSR fell was because they thought they were going to get the post-war buyout the rest of US-aligned Europe got that allowed them to keep or install a social democracy operating within capitalism.

However, what they got was Yeltsin essentially allowing a strip mining of the former Soviet state into the hands of a few oligarchs. They misread the conditions in the West. There was no capacity to subsidize a Russia in the image of West Germany, France, or Britain.

The fundamentals of their global economic utility is almost wholly extraction capital based. This is always a fickle economy dependent on the global market demand. In the United States, our states most dependent on crude oil extraction for economic activity are among the most sensitive to global price of a barrel. When revenues are down in petroleum then those states usually end up having to vastly cut services and infrastructure maintenance while unemployment spikes amongst their citizens.

The loss of the various SSRs and SFSRs aligned with Moscow was a real economic diversity drain and broad brain drain. The Russian Federation is imagined as a continuation state of the USSR by some but really it is a vastly less capable state.

The average Russian is poorer with a lower life expectancy than most other first world nation citizens.

So, no, I would not say Russia is a state whose star is rising. Their future is a vassal state to China. Their reprieve from this latest imperialist boondoggle is thanks almost totally to a Chinese bailout. China knows as long as a Russian state with imperial ambitions exists that the West cannot isolate and squeeze them.

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The president is a former KGB agent.

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Yes he is…and your point? The President of the United States is a former registered Democrat who said:

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In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat

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The same Trump who has donated $ to the campaigns of socialists like Kamala Harris as CA AG, Hillary and Bill Clinton’s campaigns and was for and now supposedly against 2nd Amendment restrictions,

Trump in 1990 stated, “We're losing badly the war on drugs," Trump told reporter Gus Carlson. "You have to legalize drugs to win that war. You have to take the profit away from these drug czars." Trump in 2025 designated drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations and called for strengthening incarceration for drug dealers.

You think a FORMER KGB agent who has led his country out of the disaster of communism can’t be trusted over a fat blowhard who avoided the draft to Vietnam and is somehow more trustworthy after supporting the Democratic Party in the past? Okay.

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Their reprieve from this latest imperialist boondoggle is thanks almost totally to a Chinese bailout

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You make good point. The above is not true though. China - which shares a border with Russia - has largely stayed out of supplying Russia with military aid in order to avoid being the brunt of the mean kids’ on the blocks sanction regime.

This in turn has led to actually strengthening Russia’s economy - forcing it to increase industrialization internally - which has 2% more GDP growth than USA in 2024.

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There are more ways to help a country than munitions, fire arms, equipment, and air frames.

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True and good points.

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You can't join NATO when you're the very REASON that there's a NATO.

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Well NATO needs a boogie man. The MIC has to eat. Politicians have to have kick backs.

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He claimed tonight Stepan Bandera didn't collaborate with Nazis

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No, I didn’t, dumbass

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He wasn’t a Nazi but he was a nationalist

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You just did it again. Saying he was wasn't a Nazi. We have mountains of evidence that he Collaborated with the Nazis, he was pictured in a Nazi Uniform but you say he is not a Nazi because he was a Nationalist. This is the prime example of the multiple lies you try and spin. You can be a Nazi and a Nationalist for Ukraine. There are no rules against supporting both things