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Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:54 am to Revelator
The org has problems, and I personally don't see what they bring to the table. Churches do their own individual thing anyway.
I'm a member of a large, "First Baptist" church, and there's talk of just parting ways. We're not going to compromise, and at some point the differences are so great there's no point using the name.
I'm a member of a large, "First Baptist" church, and there's talk of just parting ways. We're not going to compromise, and at some point the differences are so great there's no point using the name.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:56 am to Revelator
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They have been gone Left for some time now. In fact, they left the Bible a while back also.
I’m talking about Southern Baptist
Not all of them. I’m a former baptist in TX. Baylor and most of the Baptist Universities are Baptist General Convention of Texas. In the 90s they started taking some more egalitarian and liberal views of the scripture.
This caused a split with the Southern Baptists of Texas forming. It’s pretty conservative and reformed. I left BGCT to an SBTC church after I got married and my wife and I started going to the same church. When we moved 10 years ago we started visiting Baptist churches and realized they were ALL BGCT. We moved close to Waco.
Not terrible but not where we felt was best to leave the Baptist church at that point.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:59 am to Flats
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The org has problems, and I personally don't see what they bring to the table. Churches do their own individual thing anyway. I'm a member of a large, "First Baptist" church, and there's talk of just parting ways. We're not going to compromise, and at some point the differences are so great there's no point using the name.
I’ve been a Southern Baptist for years now, but quit looking to church politics years ago when it was clear the organization was departing from the faith.
I know some smaller Southern Baptist churches who are still theologically sound, but most of the larger ones offer nothing but watered down sermons and popular music.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:05 pm to FooManChoo
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Hasn't the winds of change impacted the Orthodox church on the position of contraception over the last 50+ years? It used to be strictly forbidden, but it seems that many within the OC are preaching more tolerance on the subject.
Not really. In general, the orthodox position is at least consistent with Humanae vitae, with disagreements about NFP. In Russian Orthodoxy, there is a single document that Under some very specific case by case circumstances permits it.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:06 pm to Revelator
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I’ve been a Southern Baptist for years now, but quit looking to church politics years ago when it was clear the organization was departing from the faith.
I know some smaller Southern Baptist churches who are still theologically sound, but most of the larger ones offer nothing but watered down sermons and popular music.
I think Russell Moore was the beginning of the end for the Baptist church. He’s pro-life and has a biblical view of marriage and good theology that I can tell... but when a Christian goes down the social justice path, they start seeking their brand of justice and not real justice.
I 100% want to stand against injustice for our black brothers and sisters out there... past, present, and future. I don’t want immigrant children in cages. But preaching white guilt and open borders isn’t going to fix it.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:13 pm to Boatshoes
right. part of the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church until great schism in 1054 separating east and west.
catholic in west and orthodox in east.
no thanks tho
if catholic makes me bail like i did from prod to catholic i will go greek orthodox route.
thanks for your concern tho.
catholic in west and orthodox in east.
no thanks tho
if catholic makes me bail like i did from prod to catholic i will go greek orthodox route.
thanks for your concern tho.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 1:13 pm to Boatshoes
quote:The only reason why I bring this up is because it's claim that there have been no changes to doctrine in the Orthodox church in 2,000 years and it seems to me that there has been a change in terms of the allowance of contraception, which I believe would constitute a change.
Not really. In general, the orthodox position is at least consistent with Humanae vitae, with disagreements about NFP. In Russian Orthodoxy, there is a single document that Under some very specific case by case circumstances permits it.
Even if nothing changed, that fact alone wouldn't be sufficient to determine the truthfulness of what the OC teaches due to the disagreements over tradition and its authority.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 1:21 pm to L.A.
I absolutely love how she points out the “dangers of in vs out, black vs white, us vs them” in a speech that had every intention of doing just that to the people listening to it. Wtf are these morons thinking when they rail on about this crap?
Posted on 2/13/20 at 1:25 pm to L.A.
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Mother Mystery
Is she still cooking at the old Tiger Truck Stop outside Waverly?
Posted on 2/13/20 at 1:40 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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I absolutely love how she points out the “dangers of in vs out, black vs white, us vs them” in a speech that had every intention of doing just that to the people listening to it. Wtf are these morons thinking when they rail on about this crap?
Posted on 2/13/20 at 2:21 pm to jnethe1
What is the political affiliation of different Christian groups at this point.
Evangelicals are the conservatives?
Southern Baptist?
Lutheran?
COGIC?
All the minority related branches are liberal (enough for Democrats)
I believe that politics and religion never mesh well because at some point you have denomination issues within your church that are not aligned with a political party.
Evangelicals are the conservatives?
Southern Baptist?
Lutheran?
COGIC?
All the minority related branches are liberal (enough for Democrats)
I believe that politics and religion never mesh well because at some point you have denomination issues within your church that are not aligned with a political party.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 2:31 pm to volod
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COGIC?
Ahh... I remember when COGIC would hold their annual convention in Memphis... informally known as the Hat convention.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 2:31 pm to volod
Evangelicals are generally conservative. Southern Baptists are considered evangelical. (They're often wrongly lumped in with the fundamentalists; the fundies think the SBC is liberal because they don't agree with them on everything.)
Lutherans are somewhat split. ELCA is more liberal, Missouri and Wisconsin branches more conservative.
COGIC is an African-American denomination.
Lutherans are somewhat split. ELCA is more liberal, Missouri and Wisconsin branches more conservative.
COGIC is an African-American denomination.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 2:35 pm to L.A.
It's time for a new edition of the crusades
Posted on 2/13/20 at 2:38 pm to volod
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I believe that politics and religion never mesh
A person's religious beliefs are almost always going to have an influence on their political beliefs, and that person's religious beliefs will generally hold sway over their political beliefs...
You are correct about denominations and if you consider the denomination to be the basis for a person's religious beliefs then you are correct, they generally will not mesh well and will often conflict with a political party... However, the denomination does not generally form the basis of one's true, religious beliefs and is merely an association of other churches/believers...
Posted on 2/13/20 at 2:39 pm to Boatshoes
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A time will come when instead of shepherds feeding the sheep, the church will have clowns entertaining the goats.
Charles Spurgeon
Posted on 2/13/20 at 2:44 pm to The Maj
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A person's religious beliefs are almost always going to have an influence on their political beliefs, and that person's religious beliefs will generally hold sway over their political beliefs...
I agree. The one litmus test will generally be how strongly one holds to the Bible as the standard by which one should live. The stronger the hold, the more likely the person will be politically conservative.
Evangelicals, fundamentalists, and charismatics hold to a strong view of the Bible, and unsurprisingly tend to vote conservative. Mainliners tend to hold to a weaker view (e.g. believing that it isn't "inerrant and infallible" in some areas such as science) and unsurprisingly tend to vote liberal.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 2:50 pm to Boatshoes
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A time will come when instead of shepherds feeding the sheep, the church will have clowns entertaining the goats.
Charles Spurgeon
Spurgeon was ahead of his time in predicting the megachurch craze.
Megachurches get a bad reputation, sadly it is often rightly earned. (Full disclosure: I'm a member of one.) Numbers drive everything ("nickels and noses"), nobody cares if one leaves as long as ten more are simultaneously coming in, and the main thing is to always support the pastor's "vision". Everything including sound Biblical doctrine is secondary to making the institution bigger.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 5:38 pm to volod
Well if you are willing to bend the rules of the Bible so that it makes you feel better, then you’re not a Christian. Sorry.
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