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re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbing

Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5186 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:00 pm to
"nuanced" or counter intuitive thinking is the source of political correctness and the entire problem

and you have seen no platitudes from me, only citations of bedrock principles on which democratic free societies are founded upon

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260294 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:02 pm to
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When Bannon talks about dismantling the "Administrative state,” what he's really talking about is allowing corporations and industry the absolute right to do whatever they want, whenever and wherever they want, regardless of its harmful impact on American citizens


Stop being a queen.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:03 pm to
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Elections have consequences



No shite. They'll affect you, too
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:04 pm to
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Stop being a queen.


He reminds me of that poster Aggie dub or something like that who acts like a drama queen progressive but then tells us how moderate they are.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260294 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:06 pm to
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No shite. They'll affect you, too


Probably not. Politics is a spectator sport
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72934 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:07 pm to
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Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbing
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Atop Trump’s agenda, Bannon said, was the “deconstruction of the administrative state” — meaning a system of taxes, regulations and trade pacts that the president and his advisers believe stymie economic growth and infringe upon one’s sovereignty. “If you look at these Cabinet nominees, they were selected for a reason, and that is deconstruction,” Bannon said. He posited that Trump’s announcement withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership was “one of the most pivotal moments in modern American history.”


When Bannon talks about dismantling the "Administrative state,” what he's really talking about is allowing corporations and industry the absolute right to do whatever they want, whenever and wherever they want, regardless of its harmful impact on American citizens.



They already do and have been for decades now.
Posted by ozland
Land of Ahhs or so I am told.
Member since Aug 2008
338 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:26 pm to
Let me attempt to explain what Bannon meant when he was discussing the “deconstruction of the administrative state”.

Departments of the executive branch to survive and thrive are into empire building. What they can't get done by congressional approval, is done by regulation. By that, I mean management of complex systems according to a set of rules and trends that particular department feels is necessary to accomplish its goals. First off, with Trump's new executive order pertaining to the proliferation of regulation Cabinet secretaries are directed for every new regulation to dispense or get rid of two more. Additionally, except for the military, Homeland Security and other deemed critically important functions there is a hiring freeze in effect to reduce the number of personnel by attrition.

The deconstruction of the executive state is to shrink the size and scope of government, in many cases government overreach and make it more responsive to the people it is supposed to support, protect or serve.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:39 pm to
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I bet you'd like a global government to enforce all your standards on every other country too eh?


This is what it's all about.

Having constitutional rights is not good enough for lefties.

They want human rights so an individual's constitutional rights can be denied when they are in conflict with what is best for the greater good.

frick them.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56466 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:18 pm to
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When Bannon talks about dismantling the "Administrative state,” what he's really talking about is allowing corporations and industry the absolute right to do whatever they want, whenever and wherever they want, regardless of its harmful impact on American citizens.



Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:42 pm to
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When Bannon talks about dismantling the "Administrative state,” what he's really talking about is allowing corporations and industry the absolute right to do whatever they want, whenever and wherever they want, regardless of its harmful impact on American citizens.


How did you come to this conclusion from this?

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meaning a system of taxes, regulations and trade pacts that the president and his advisers believe stymie economic growth and infringe upon one’s sovereignty.
Posted by TuDog
Boston
Member since Jun 2005
4153 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:44 pm to
Go protest with the rest of your type
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:48 pm to
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It's like the individual states are incapable of handling these issues. I bet you'd like a global government to enforce all your standards on every other country too eh


They aren't capable. What can Louisiana do about an upstream states pollution into the Mississippi? Sue them? Because another state holds themselves to a low standard?

Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12061 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:57 pm to
I have a general rule. Anytime someone inserts the word truly in a sentence they're usually being overly dramatic and attention seeking.

My rule was once again right.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27471 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 2:31 pm to
Nice cherry picking of his quote. You forgot his explanation of what he meant and what he hopes is accomplished. He basically wants the regulator state to be more constrained.

He feels that progressives of all stripes use the regulatory state to circumvent the will of h legislative and even the court. His philosophy is that this MUST stop.

What is so fascist about that?.....it seems almost republican (little r intended) .
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:04 pm to
Regulations are protective measures. Left to their own devices the private sector has proven incapable of consistently making decisions based on human well-being or natural resource preservation.

I don't think the bar should be raised or lowered at a whim either, though. 5-10 year regulatory evaluation cycles would be better.

Major regulatory rule changes should be voted on at the polls and they should be immune to executive orders.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 3:27 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:07 pm to
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Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbing by Draconian
lol. No.

Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35390 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:13 pm to
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Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbing
Only to people who love this country and everything it stands for. The people who want to live in a bunker while the country developes into lawlessness applaud it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422393 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:27 pm to
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Only to people who love this country and everything it stands for.

the bureaucratic state?

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84848 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:29 pm to
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the bureaucratic state?


Like I said before: 1 in 2 out is one thing, saying let's destroy all these agencies is something else.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:29 pm to
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Only to people who love this country and everything it stands for. The people who want to live in a bunker while the country developes into lawlessness applaud it.
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