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re: Bannon's comments at CPAC were truly disturbing
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:13 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:13 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Bannon talks about dismantling the "Administrative state,” what he's really talking about is allowing corporations and industry the absolute right to do whatever they want, whenever and wherever they want, regardless of its harmful impact on American citizens.
ITT we learn DS loves crony capitalism.
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:18 am to SabiDojo
This clip about sums it all up
If the right people don't have power...
If the right people don't have power...
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 8:18 am
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:19 am to Draconian Sanctions
Music to my ears. Long overdue.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:22 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
When Bannon talks about dismantling the "Administrative state,” what he's really talking about is allowing corporations and industry the absolute right to do whatever they want, whenever and wherever they want, regardless of its harmful impact on American citizens.
This is ridiculous, but it's oh so Drac.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:23 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Atop Trump’s agenda, Bannon said, was the “deconstruction of the administrative state” — meaning a system of taxes, regulations and trade pacts that the president and his advisers believe stymie economic growth and infringe upon one’s sovereignty.
Music to my ears.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:24 am to SlowFlowPro
I enjoyed that.Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:29 am to Draconian Sanctions
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It's like y'all skipped over the part where I said I'm totally fine with eliminating outdated, duplicative, and truly burdensome regulations.
I have a feeling though that some of you believe just about any regulation to be considered overburdensome on business.
Sorry, this isn't a "let's sit down and have a conversation" type thing. We just had 8 years of full court press from Obama on regulations. It's time for your side to bend over now.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:31 am to udtiger
We love our Bannon, don't we folks?
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:33 am to SabiDojo
before i found Yes Minister, i listened to a lot of Milton Friedman on Youtube and he really summed it up. we have this belief that since bureaucrats are in "public service" that somehow they are noble and above human needs/desires. but the bureaucrat is not this noble creature above the fray and they're subject to the same self-preservation and selfishness of their political "Enemies" (typically businesses)
so you read the OP in this thread and it creates the typical dichotomy: noble bureaucrats v. evil businesses. and we need the bureaucrats to keep industry in check because the businesses act in self interest to the detriment of society while the noble bureaucrats fight against this without any self-interest or bias to protect society. in reality, both are doing the same thing: competing for resources to have more control than the other allows. businesses want more freedom to have control over their decisions and bureaucrats want more government power to have control over industry.
Yes Minister is just an absolutely brilliant satire of the bureaucratic state and covers basically every angle. it's seriously one of the best comedies in history and is always useful to post clips in these discussions
Five Standard Excuses
that covers almost EVERY excuse for government failure and it's like 30 years old. nothing has changed
so you read the OP in this thread and it creates the typical dichotomy: noble bureaucrats v. evil businesses. and we need the bureaucrats to keep industry in check because the businesses act in self interest to the detriment of society while the noble bureaucrats fight against this without any self-interest or bias to protect society. in reality, both are doing the same thing: competing for resources to have more control than the other allows. businesses want more freedom to have control over their decisions and bureaucrats want more government power to have control over industry.
Yes Minister is just an absolutely brilliant satire of the bureaucratic state and covers basically every angle. it's seriously one of the best comedies in history and is always useful to post clips in these discussions
Five Standard Excuses
that covers almost EVERY excuse for government failure and it's like 30 years old. nothing has changed
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
Sounds like my kind of show. I want to see if I can stream it all online. 
ETA: Yeah, the clips are great.
ETA:
Yeah, the clips are great. This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 8:39 am
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:37 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
what he's really talking about is allowing corporations and industry the absolute right to do whatever they want, whenever and wherever they want, regardless of its harmful impact on American citizens.
You and Toddy should get together and compare drama queen notes. 
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:39 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Draconian Sanctions
You have gone full dumbass and are a nuisance. How do you know what Bannon "is really talking about"?
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:41 am to Draconian Sanctions
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The wholesale elimination of Federal agencies that ensure we receive such things as clean air, clean water, fair labor laws, fair housing standards, anti-discrimination laws, financial regulations, food and drug safety, national education standards, health care standards, etc.
Because we don't have state agencies and a federal congress to oversee any of these things, right?
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:41 am to Mo Jeaux
If you want to get rid of senseless rules and regulations and bureaucracy you need to get started at the Pentagon and Department of Defense and all branches of the service. They are the masters of getting paid to do nothing, duplicating services, and getting private industry to follow their mandates. If you want to see waste, fraud, getting paid for doing nothing there's no beating the military.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:42 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
so you read the OP in this thread and it creates the typical dichotomy: noble bureaucrats v. evil businesses. and we need the bureaucrats to keep industry in check because the businesses act in self interest to the detriment of society while the noble bureaucrats fight against this without any self-interest or bias to protect society. in reality, both are doing the same thing: competing for resources to have more control than the other allows. businesses want more freedom to have control over their decisions and bureaucrats want more government power to have control over industry.
Exactly. Both philosophies completely disregard that human beings make up both of them. Both reflect a lack of understanding of human nature.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:43 am to SabiDojo
it used to be on Amazon Prime. where i first watched it
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:46 am to Draconian Sanctions
throwing the baby out with the bath water is not a good analogy for a liberal to make - just sayin
but the bath water is being thrown out - all of it
but the bath water is being thrown out - all of it
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:48 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Draconian
He is talking about draining the fricking swamp you liberal snowflake.
You lost. We won. DWI
MAGA in yo face!!!!
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:49 am to Draconian Sanctions
Why did most big corporations back Hillary?
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:52 am to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:
If you want to get rid of senseless rules and regulations and bureaucracy you need to get started at the Pentagon and Department of Defense and all branches of the service. They are the masters of getting paid to do nothing, duplicating services, and getting private industry to follow their mandates. If you want to see waste, fraud, getting paid for doing nothing there's no beating the military.
I generally agree.
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