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re: Banning vaccine passports - how is this a conservative / small government stance?

Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:10 pm to
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Lots of old Trump voters still don't want to die from the virus.


What does that have to do with vaccine passports? Try to be relevant.

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Telling the cruise companies they can't use them is insane levels of big government.



Government telling private business that you can't discriminate is not big government. That's current law. Unless you want to do away with all discrimination laws???
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62558 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:11 pm to
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Principals are how we defeat the left... abandoning principals leads us to try to be friends with the left, and where has that gotten us?


Oh geez. You're the consummate conservative. Your thought process is why they can't conserve anything. You balk at the exercise of government power to protect the rights of the people. Pretty pathetic.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:11 pm to
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Where specifically do you disagree with the OP? Why are you against a private business doing something like this?




So liberals are cool with businesses discriminating now?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170781 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:11 pm to
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Unless you want to do away with all discrimination laws???


Probably a little bit too much freedom for you eh?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40270 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:11 pm to
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No, and i mean this kindly, you're not important to me.


Fair enough!

Point is... I have long stated that our government is way too overbearing.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16728 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:12 pm to
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If a business wants to require all of their customers to be vaccinated, they should have that right.



Those that make this type of statement will never get any of my money.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:12 pm to
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So liberals are cool with businesses discriminating now?
I have no idea. Try to stay on topic. Why are you against a private business doing something like this?
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:13 pm to
Corporations as legal persons only exist because of government regulation. If you want to start on this "government interference in the market" shite, we're going to have to go waaayyyyy back into unpacking all of it. When we start back up with 1800 levels of business regulation, I will agree that we need to properly analyze "banning" of vaccine passports as a choice business may or may not make dealing with customers.

Until then, we have to accept that there are many companies larger and more powerful than individual governments and there is, for all intents and purposes, no real competition for their business.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 3:15 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57013 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:14 pm to
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I'd support that in a heartbeat.

But we need to make progress where we can. We can't say "well, this won't work because that doesn't apply".



No, this is, again, YOUR OWN SELFISH IDEOLOGY. This comical response shows you are a silly person with silly ideas, and you can't be taken seriously. It also proves that you either are incapable, or purposefully ignorant of any and all external factors that impact one another. For example, i'm a big proponent of cutting taxes. But i'm also not stupid enough to not consider that by cutting all taxes by 50% without also cutting governmental spending wouldn't put us in a financial crisis. This is called, keeping your ideas relative. If you can't manage to do that, then your own OP is too advanced for you.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40270 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:14 pm to
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What ideals? You seem to be making this up. A certain code of conduct is expected, and that's pretty much all private schools.


And that certain code of conduct is often based in religious backing.

See BYU and Bob Jones University, for starters.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57013 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:17 pm to
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Probably a little bit too much freedom for you eh?


I already stated, that you purposefully ignored, if you want vaccine passports, and you want airlines to be treated just like private business, then you must massively deregulate and break up the airline industry. Until this happens, the only thing you mentally stunted people are doing, is humping doorknobs.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40270 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:17 pm to
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Those that make this type of statement will never get any of my money.


Yes! Exactly! You can decide if you want to patronize a business that requires a vaccine, or not.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88719 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:17 pm to
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I have no idea. Try to stay on topic.


This is on topic you fricking halfwit.
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Why are you against a private business doing something like this?


Why should a private business be able to discriminate? Stop dodging the question.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9076 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:18 pm to
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Why are you against a private business doing something like this?



It is discrimination, plain and simple.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57013 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:18 pm to
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And that certain code of conduct is often based in religious backing.

See BYU and Bob Jones University, for starters.


And what do they do or not do? I'm curious, because i am unaware of what restrictions these universities have. Surely you aren't using 2 universities to paint ALL RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS with the same brush, are you?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9076 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:20 pm to
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You can decide if you want to patronize a business that requires a vaccine, or not.



Actually, this is incorrect. The business is making that choice for the individual in this instance.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6754 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:21 pm to
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For over a year, we've been yelling that businesses should be allowed to make their own decisions.
There is no "we" here. I specifically remember you calling for more government mandates in 2020.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40270 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:21 pm to
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And what do they do or not do? I'm curious, because i am unaware of what restrictions these universities have. Surely you aren't using 2 universities to paint ALL RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS with the same brush, are you?


Not at all. You asked for an example, I gave two.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46249 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:22 pm to
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You can't be this dense... well maybe you are.

We are talking about laws and constitution here.

In terms of the bill of rights... freedom is based upon the relationship between government and people, not business and people.

I mean... "Congress shall make no law"... not "business shall make no rule..."
Wow
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57013 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:22 pm to
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So liberals are cool with businesses discriminating now?


That's progressivism for you. They are so "woke" that discrimination, along with segregation and open racism is "enlightened". Liberals are the toothless, inbred rednecks of our day. Congratulations guys...you did it!
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