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re: Authoritarian Voting Tendencies

Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:05 am to
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:05 am to
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Or you can actually engage in a thing called intellectual debate


You really really don’t want that. Have you never seen a record of debates of Liberals against Conservatives? It’s laughable.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:45 am to
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You're out of your fricking mind. Deplorables was directed straight at white people


Jesus Christ, you people are whiniest whiners I've ever seen. Just looking for something, no matter how ridiculous to get enraged about to connect it to your race. Y'all say the Obama/Hillary campaigns "attacked white people". Some just as easily say white men were uncomfortable not seeing someone not like them in White House.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
144230 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:49 am to
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I'm just a troll I guess. 


No shite
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
11456 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:52 am to
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Some
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someone not like them


Please define the terms 'some' and 'them', if you dare. Hahaha...
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
144230 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:52 am to
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we could do to reach the Pinnacle of human evolution


I don't understand the hurry to reach the top of the mountain. Its all downhill from there, literally.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
113744 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:53 am to
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Many would say look no further than voters and their tendencies towards authoritarian rule.


Trump is not an authoritarian. Authoritarians don't appoint originalists to federal courts. Authoritarians don't reduce govt power by deregulation of the private sector.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
58820 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:01 am to
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So you think trashing at least half of Americans and reversing every bit of progress that people voted for over 8 years


Southern conservatives didn’t vote or support the garbage that Obama passed.
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:35 am to
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reversing every bit of progress that people voted for over 8 years


Here's were we're going to disagree. Your progress is my SJW-going amok. The Iran Deal was NOT progress. Drag queens in my kid's elementary school bathroom is NOT progress. The Paris Climate Change accord almost entirely at America's expense is NOT progress.

But also, as a technical point, nearly everyone who voted for Barack Obama either wanted to vote for the first black President, or felt they had to prove they weren't prejudice by voting for the first black President. Only a handful of SJW wack-jobs actually voted for him solely on his political platform.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2979 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:38 am to
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reversing every bit of progress that people voted for over 8 years


What 'progress' was made other than letting gays get married?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:13 am to
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Hahaha...the anti-authoritarian will now be the final arbiter on what is 'real'.


I thought we all agreed, as a society, that opinions and truth are often different. Simply feeling like something is happening to you isn't exactly enough evidence to make it real. You can try to spin it as me being the Arbiter or judge but the reality is when you make a claim you should be able to back it up
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:14 am to
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You really really don’t want that. Have you never seen a record of debates of Liberals against Conservatives? It’s laughable.


I really feel like it's gone the other way around. We'll just have to agree to disagree there
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:17 am to
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Please define the terms 'some' and 'them', if you dare. Hahaha...


There are plenty of white Southerners that started to get scared that they would become irrelevant with Mexicans coming in with Muslims coming in with black people being elected president. Some would say that a lot of the makeamericagreatagain has more to do with that than anything else.

Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:18 am to
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don't understand the hurry to reach the top of the mountain. Its all downhill from there, literally.


Downhill is a lot faster and more effortless than anything else.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
20472 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:24 am to
This is one of the things that I find amusing about Trumps critics.

They use such sloppy arguments.

Trump isn’t the least bit authoritarian. He’s the first president in a very long time who’s actually worked to make the presidency, and the executive branch less powerful.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69952 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:25 am to
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There are plenty of white Southerners that started to get scared that they would become irrelevant with Mexicans coming in with Muslims coming in with black people being elected president. Some would say that a lot of the makeamericagreatagain has more to do with that than anything else.


Yet trump's biggest gains were with northern whites who voted for a black guy twice.

Trump won because of northern white people, period. He only did marginally better than romney in the deep south. He massively outperformed romney in the north and midwest.

It's not shocking if you understand economic trends.

Also, I do not understand why concerns about immigration are some terrible thing.

Bill Clinton sounded like trump oftentimes on immigration issues.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
266204 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:26 am to
I've seen about as much authoritarian rule out of him as I saw socialism from Obama.

All you sheep prone to fear mongering are fricking up the country.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
20472 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:27 am to
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There are plenty of white Southerners that started to get scared that they would become irrelevant with Mexicans coming in with Muslims coming in with black people being elected president. Some would say that a lot of the makeamericagreatagain has more to do with that than anything else.


Is that the belief that you cling to, to feel more comfortable? Because it elevates you? Because it declares that you are one of the morally elect?

You brave soul.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24786 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:29 am to
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Your fricking Pearl Jam handle is lame as hell, btw.


You tried so hard to make it personal. What a fail.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69952 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:29 am to
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Trump isn’t the least bit authoritarian. He’s the first president in a very long time who’s actually worked to make the presidency, and the executive branch less powerful.
Yea, this is the one I don't get either.

Trump has a devoted group of followers. So what? Every president does. Obama, even on this board of all places, had a drone army too, that defended him at every step of the way.

Bush 2 left office with, somehow, 30% of people approving of him.

It's doomsday BS that is commonly seen by people whose preferred party is out of power. "Everyone I don't like is a dictator!"
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
20472 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:33 am to
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Yet trump's biggest gains were with northern whites who voted for a black guy twice


This is something they’re incapable of understanding. They have no frame of reference, no way to comprehend this.

How could you vote for the social revolution that Obama promised, and then turn around, and vote for a man like Trump?

Perhaps voters didn’t want Obama’s social revolution. Perhaps they had other reasons for voting for him.
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