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re: Asked my leftist acquaintance about the $20 million the Bidens got while Joe was VP

Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79284 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:07 pm to
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nonsense wild speculation allegations


I can see The Democrat Palace Guard has received instructions and is ready to fall on their swords (or gobble their partners) for The Party.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29827 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:07 pm to
What billions did Trump receive? Ask him that. Then punch him in the fricking face when he can’t give you an honest answer.

God I hate leftists.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3048 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:08 pm to
Hunter is unique from Jared because everything they are doing is illegal and not going through the IRS. But deep down you know that.

It can't because that would leave a trail to follow.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2852 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:15 pm to
Whats wrong? You don't want to talk about Jared and Ivanka?

As far as Hunter and Joe.. if they broke the law, throw their arse in jail. That is what the right wants..correct? So I'm on board.. arrest them!

I won't cry and say, "its a political hit job, they're mistreating me...blah blah blah".

Posted by Brood211
Member since Jun 2012
1417 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:17 pm to
Every single time you ask a left winger to explain their parties actions. Their first response is always “but Trump did….”. They never have to ability to debate without pulling that card. You have to press them and say “we aren’t talking about trump”
Posted by LaMigra
Member since Nov 2022
1220 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:18 pm to
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However, we know that Trump profited directly from moneys from foreign governments.


Really? Is that why he lost a billion dollars of his worth while being POTUS??

You libs are the dumbest, brainwashed, sheep in the world!!

Bahahaha
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43084 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:19 pm to
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But it isn't QUITE that simple.

Why would Kushner want to manage a private equity fund? It isn't some charity on his part. He wants to make money, right? Typical management fee is about 2% per year. Check my math, but that is about $40mm per year from the Saudi investment, isn't it?

If Kushner were not Trump's son-in-law, would the Saudis have made that investment with a 40yo kid whose work experience consists of "working for Daddy and running a weekly tabloid?" Of course not.

Do the Saudis not see some benefit in giving Trump's son-in-law $40mm per year? Other than the vastly-different scale, how is that different from Burisma giving money to Biden's son?

Interesting - that is what I would expect from you. very astute analysis

Now - please - point me to the similar analysis you provided for our educational advancement wrt the Hunter, et al, dealings with Ukraine, Romania, Russia, etc.

And please list the shell LLCs the Saudi money was circulated thru on the way to Kushner's P.E.F.

LINK?? please

btw - I am not a fan of Private Equity Funds - even if a Trump is involved with one of them. I think they are far too susceptible for high-info financial wizards to use their access to the market tides for their own benefit rather than their fiduciaries responsibilities.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
13349 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:19 pm to
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Whats wrong? You don't want to talk about Jared and Ivanka?


Your gimmick is bad.
Try a war crime if you want to go after trump.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3099 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:19 pm to
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Liberalism is their religion. Nothing will sway their faith in Government. If they allow themselves to admit their guy is a crook then their entire belief system/religion collapses.


They know he's a crook. Getting paid off other people's money for no reason is the core value of being a liberal.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29827 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:30 pm to
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If Kushner were not Trump's son-in-law, would the Saudis have made that investment with a 40yo kid whose work experience consists of "working for Daddy and running a weekly tabloid?" Of course not.
Jeez Hank, you’re pitiful.
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between March 4, 2005, and August 25, 2006, Kushner took a much bigger role in the family real estate business. He set about expanding the business and acquired almost $7 billion in property over the next ten years, much of it in New York City. As of 2019, Kushner's net worth is estimated at $800 million.
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 12:31 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29827 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:34 pm to
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No, the Saudis did not "give" him $2 billion.

Yes, they too were looking to buy influence.
Uhm, I’m pretty sure Trump was out of office when the deal happened.

What kind of influence did Trump have after January of 2021?

You’re a twat.
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:35 pm to
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Now - please - point me to the similar analysis you provided for our educational advancement wrt the Hunter, et al, dealings with Ukraine, Romania, Russia, etc.
I have acknowledged repeatedly that Hunter has been selling his name for at least a decade or more. What more can I say?
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And please list the shell LLCs the Saudi money was circulated thru on the way to Kushner's P.E.F.
Everyone on the planet acknowledges the Saudi investment with Kushner. What would be the point?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67125 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:35 pm to
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FFS, the man still lives in the same house that he bought 25 years ago for $350k.


Warren Buffett drives a Honda Accord
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:37 pm to
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I’m pretty sure Trump was out of office when the deal happened.

What kind of influence did Trump have after January of 2020?
If you don't acknowledge that Trump remains probably the single-largest influence on GOP politics, there really is no point trying to have a discussion with you. He is THE power-broker for the American Right.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25877 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:43 pm to
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speaking engagements and a book dea


Which is really weird for a guy who can’t speak coherently for more than 10 minutes at a time. But sure, pay top dollar to go see that feeble minded geezer tell your company or group his inspiring stories. Such a leader, such a beacon of integrity!

Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29827 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:46 pm to
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I just want SOME evidence other than conjecture. You don't have to prove your case beyond a reasonable doubt, but I do want to see something other than fantasies concocted from nothing more than partisan hatred.
Oh Hank, so simple minded.
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the law recognizes payments to family members to corruptly influence others can constitute a bribe,” the memo says. The panel points to a resource guide of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act that states “companies also may violate the FCPA if they give payments or gifts to third parties, such as an official’s family members, as an indirect way of corruptly influencing a foreign official.”
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29827 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:47 pm to
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The difference is, there is no evidence that Joe Biden ever profited from what his son did.
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the law recognizes payments to family members to corruptly influence others can constitute a bribe,” the memo says. The panel points to a resource guide of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act that states “companies also may violate the FCPA if they give payments or gifts to third parties, such as an official’s family members, as an indirect way of corruptly influencing a foreign official.”
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29827 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:48 pm to
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However, we know that Trump profited directly from moneys from foreign governments.
When, where and how? Show us your homework.

Why wasn’t he prosecuted?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43084 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:48 pm to
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FFS, the man still lives in the same house that he bought 25 years ago for $350k.

uhmmm - no.

Ever since he became VP he has become a financial wizard (them books and speeches pay off handsomely)

Never had a job other than 'serving the public' since the 70s.' Finished at the bottom of every class he took. Known primarily as a dolt with a big mouth who loves to lie about his accomplishments.' ' - now amassed $20,000,000 worth.

What a guy -
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43084 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:55 pm to
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I have acknowledged repeatedly that Hunter has been selling his name for at least a decade or more. What more can I say?

Well - an acknowledgment of what on earth anyone, especially a foreign government official, would be 'buying' when they 'give' millions of dollars to a known crack-head known to be dumb as a rock and worthless as a leaky condom.

What DID Hunter have to sell??

ANY idea at all??

Now - I will not defend ANYONE using these mountains of money in dealing with foreign governments - whether it is legal or not.

But I WILL challenge anyone who ONLY sees fault when someone associated with CONSERVATIVE politics does it, while DEFENDING the vast hordes of LEFTISTs who wallow in it.
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