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re: As of Today, Russia has lost 62% of the territory it captured during this war.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:24 am to Chromdome35
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:24 am to Chromdome35
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Do you disagree with the math or do you just not like what it says?
Nobody gives a shite. The only math that matters is whatever the number of billions we are up to that Ukraine has taken from the American taxpayers. Add that up and then we can spice up this conversation.
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:24 am to Chromdome35
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Then show me the correct math, if you can.
I can't, neither can they, you're just a marketers dream.
The 46% should have given it away. They have no idea knowing to that degree at any moment.
What they did is guess, and they guessed over to please people like you. 45% would have been more believable, at least we know they are estimating which is all they can do.
Propaganda 101, never use multiples of 5 or 10, make up an odd number..
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 11:26 am
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I can't, neither can they, you're just a marketers dream.
The 46% should have given it away. They have no idea knowing to that degree at any moment.
What they did is guess, and they guessed over to please people like you. 45% would have been more believable, at least we know they are estimating which is all they can do.
Yes this is a truth bomb they cant handle
They believe the BBC, CNN, MSNBC and the UK intel
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:26 am to Chromdome35
It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it. - Robert E. Lee
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 11:40 am
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:31 am to Cobra Tate
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They believe the BBC, CNN, MSNBC and the UK intel
Yep, the first lesson of propaganda (all salesmen should know it) is when you estimate, use odd numbers so they think you actually did the math.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:33 am to Chromdome35
I can’t imagine investing emotions into defending Russia or Ukraine here.
It’s all weird.
It’s all weird.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:35 am to Chromdome35
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Not my issue if you aren't smart enough to understand the math.
Youre dumb enough to believe it.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:35 am to Chromdome35
as of today Ukraine has lost more than 100K human sandbags. very sad.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:36 am to Goonie02
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as of today Ukraine has lost more than 100K human sandbags. very sad.
Their blood is on the hands of US bureaucrats.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Their blood is on the hands of US bureaucrats.
they want to fight. let them fight. just stop mooching off the American tax dollars. I find the notion funny that we have to be involved in propping up that shithole country.
I have no problem with them fighting the Russians or vise versa. nothing to do with me. but somehow the leftist cucks, Trotskyite neocons and US government thinks I should care for some reason.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:45 am to Goonie02
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they want to fight. let them fight. just stop mooching off the American tax dollars
Yep, like Israel and Palestine, let them settle their shite without us trying to run their world.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:47 am to Chromdome35
The issue with this kind of reporting is in how you define "captured territory".
In the early days, Western media worked double-plus overtime to explain how the Russian invasion failed, and failed badly.
Now it wants to use all the territory it didn't "capture" in the denominator of what it no longer controls.
Look. I don't give two shites about Russian military wins or losses. I'm not there. Maybe they are losing their arses. But the West's attempts to paint a picture of Russian failure is both transparent and pathetic.
That people who consider themselves educated parrot those talking points on a forum such as this should be an embarrassment.
I would feel sad for you, but can't. Willful ignorance for the sake of ideology is off-putting.
In the early days, Western media worked double-plus overtime to explain how the Russian invasion failed, and failed badly.
Now it wants to use all the territory it didn't "capture" in the denominator of what it no longer controls.
Look. I don't give two shites about Russian military wins or losses. I'm not there. Maybe they are losing their arses. But the West's attempts to paint a picture of Russian failure is both transparent and pathetic.
That people who consider themselves educated parrot those talking points on a forum such as this should be an embarrassment.
I would feel sad for you, but can't. Willful ignorance for the sake of ideology is off-putting.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
Do you understand the 62% (Corrected) number didn't come from the article, it just came from doing the math associated with the data from the Wikipedia article.
Which of these numbers is wrong
1) Russia controlled 16K sq miles of ukraine before the Feb 24th
2) Russia captured 46K additional sq miles after the start of the war on Feb 24th.
2) Russia controlled 62K sq miles of Ukraine at their highpoint
3) Ukraine has taken 28k sq miles back from the Russians.
Those are the only four numbers this is all based on, which of those do you disagree with?
Which of these numbers is wrong
1) Russia controlled 16K sq miles of ukraine before the Feb 24th
2) Russia captured 46K additional sq miles after the start of the war on Feb 24th.
2) Russia controlled 62K sq miles of Ukraine at their highpoint
3) Ukraine has taken 28k sq miles back from the Russians.
Those are the only four numbers this is all based on, which of those do you disagree with?
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:49 am to Zarkinletch416
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It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it. - Robert E. Lee
There's about 40 different nations at war right now, we suspiciously seem to be spending money on only one.
Wonder why?
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:54 am to Chromdome35
Who really gives a flying frick about Ukraine and Russia. STOP SENDING OUR TREASURE OVER THERE!
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:54 am to Chromdome35
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, it just came from doing the math associated with the data from the Wikipedia article
Which you believe. Bless your heart.
I'd accept a round estimate. That's believable.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 11:55 am
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:56 am to Chromdome35
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ETA: I realized I made a mistake when I typed this, the actual number is 62.39% loss of gained territory by Russia
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
Because most of us care about a war being fought close to a place most of us are from.
Most of us do not care about a civil war going on in Equatorial Guinea or Burma/Mynmar/Whatever it is called this week.
Most of us do not care about a civil war going on in Equatorial Guinea or Burma/Mynmar/Whatever it is called this week.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:58 am to Eurocat
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Because most of us care about a war being fought close to a place most of us are from.
I'm not.
Why isn't your home country doing this?
We have many other wars closer to home than Ukraine.
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Most of us do not care about a civil war going on in Equatorial Guinea or Burma/Mynmar/Whatever it is called this week.
Then the only reason you believe it should be supported is distance?
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 12/26/22 at 12:02 pm to Eurocat
This isn't a good answer. The importance of human suffering and geopolitics aren't a function of nostalgia for the "old country".
The children of Ukraine aren't any more important than any others around the world.
The children of Ukraine aren't any more important than any others around the world.
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