re: As a Trump supporter, I don’t believe in the voter fraud claim

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I don’t believe in the voter fraud claim

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Were there sketchy business going on during the last presidential campaign? Yes, mostly how the court circumvented state legislators and passed unconstitutional laws

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t I don’t believe in the massive voter fraud claim, which is responsible for Biden win.

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I would like to ask several questions.

I don't truly know to what degree the fraud went on and I am not sure we will ever know the full truth. But explain a few things to me please? Explain to me the vote counting stopping in the middle of the night? I am 53 and cannot every remember them stopping the count in the middle of the night? Explain how in several locations the count was stopped poll observers were ushered out of the building then they resumed counting? Explain how they kept finding boxes of ballots after the polls were long closed and were counting them which is against the law. Explain how a man who literally did zero campaigning managed to get 81 million votes by and far more votes than anyone ever in USA history. How did Trump have more votes than he did in 2016 and still lose? I cannot prove fraud and I am not 100% what happened and I am not 100% that Trump did win but what I am 100% sure is that the 2020 election was not honest.

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Yes, mostly how the court circumvented state legislators and passed unconstitutional laws.

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Sounds like fraud to me

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No problem, it’s early. You just missed the point, which was just because a thing is not proven to a given technical or legal standard does not necessarily mean the thing isn’t true. Hence, even though OJ was acquitted, that doesn’t mean he was innocent. In fact we all know he was guilty.

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No one missed your point. It was just a bad example.

Why? Trump barely won WI, MI, and PA in 2016. It really came down to a few counties like Kent in MI and Bucks and Delaware in PA. You work those a little if you are Democrats and you can achieve your swing. In AZ and GA Republicans were not paying attention. In fact in GA, Republicans pretty much took it for granted until it was too late. All of a sudden you have Ossof and Warnock leading and Republicans in disarray.

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I like his policies and will vote for him if he runs again, but I don’t believe in the massive voter fraud claim, which is responsible for Biden win.
Not sure how many Trump supporters believe the same.

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so then you believe Joe fricking Biden received more votes than Barack Obama.

and you say you can't see how people believe in voter fraud.

One of the biggest way fraud was committed was lowering standards. Mail in ballots for elderly or confined people is nothing new. It generally runs at 2-3 % rejection rate across the board regardless of who wins. With a 10x growth of mail in ballots common sense says you should be on the high side of rejection rates. The rates were 10x less.

It is worth losing some votes of people improperly filling it out to ensure a free and fair election.

If you go with the idea that the poll watchers were combative and you had to get them out,where was the let’s take a deep breath and show you what we did. At no time was an effort made to prove illegal moves like removing poll watchers didn’t allow fraud. The Dims lawyers moved in and MSM brought out the big lie.

For years we heard about Russia collusion because they bought 100k worth of advertising. Their intent was/ is to destroy our faith in the best political system in man’s long history. The Dims have spent millions to lower standards , change election rules illegally and stop open and transparent audits.

Look at the poll numbers and the historic disillusionment. It wasn’t Trump. It is the Dims.

Don’t believe me. We have the largest most generous social safety net in the world. Wic Social Security, Medicare all require ID ‘s. Have they been racist all these years or just requiring it for voting is.

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Joe Biden received more votes than any person in history

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What other Presidential Elections had mass mail in voting?

People voted against Trump not necessarily for Biden. The narrative that Biden couldn't have gotten so many votes isn't true when you consider the circumstances of the 2020 election. Nobody was hailing Biden as a savior like they were Obama for example. A lot of people simply voted against Trump and you will see this again in 2024 as well.

I believe the fraud was very real. I pointed out one way it was committed. It was an all of the above method to insure the win.

How can anyone that has ever walked down the hall in a nursing home expect 95-100% percent participation. An occasional one with an unusually healthy population. To have over 90 in five Dim cities.

“ But it wasn’t enough to change an election”. No but it helped support the mules and other methods. Easier to hide several smaller methods than put all your eggs in one basket.

I also believe this was aided by the CIA types with many false flags. I followed Sydney Powell defense of Mike Flynn. The videos showed her to be an intelligent thoughtful person. Chasing some of the claims thrown out there allowed them to paint her as a loon. You aren’t going to do something as big and well organized as stealing this election without trying to shield yourself.

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You work those a little if you are Democrats and you can achieve your swing.

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Democrats didnt "work" schidt.

The plan was to hide their candidate and cheat like hell.

Then "work" to force people to lose their job if they dont take the mRNA poison, along with work against Americans as much as possible in every imaginable way.

THIS has never been done in American history - no one would have ever imagined it being done in America.

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like his policies and will vote for him if he runs again, but I don’t believe in the massive voter fraud claim, which is responsible for Biden win.
Not sure how many Trump supporters believe the same.

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OK I'll play along how do you reconcile Joe Biden is the most popular president in American history by vote totals?

President trump did a pretty darn good job for 3 years the last year he got beat up over the pandemic BS which I thought he did a phenomenal job.

The economy took a hit...

That said Joe Biden really didn't even campaign for the job I mean he rarely left the basement and when he went out for a campaign there was you know a couple 100 people.

Whereas president trump had thousands and thousands of people.

Visually it looked like it was going to be a landslide victory for trump.

When you put it all together it just doesn't make any sense that Joe Biden would win...

Now that he is our president we are getting a train wreck...

While the media trust to spin anything positive for him...

And for trump it was constant beating over the head negativity...

we're just sick of Of how things play out in our in our country...