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re: As a Catholic, I view the pope the same as I do the English monarch
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:04 pm to Canon951
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:04 pm to Canon951
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If you haven't believed on Jesus for everlasting life
When did I or any other Catholic in the history of the world ever say we can be saved without Jesus Christ?
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:06 pm to Canon951
quote:Sounds a bit judgmental.
I have posted this before but some of you need to repent and believe on Jesus and him alone for your eternal salvation. Throw away your religious works and the things you think make your right before God. Let me be clear...Works based religions of any label traps people in religious bondage. Rather than repent and believe God's word, they defend the doctrine of demons that blinds people from the light of God's glorious gospel which is Jesus Christ and him alone for our salvation. That would apply to Catholics or Protestants or Orthodox or whoever that add anything to God's plan to save mankind through faith in his Son.
If you are working your way to heaven, or believe your involvement in some particular denomination makes you right with God, then you need to repent today and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for everlasting life and the forgiveness of sins. He died for us all and he only wants you to believe he did that for you and trust him alone.
Acts 13:38 Let it be known to you therefore, brothers, that through this man forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you, 39 and by him everyone who believes is freed from everything from which you could not be freed by the law of Moses.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:13 pm to Diamondawg
quote:I didn't read it that way. He's just saying Jesus already did all of the work for your sins to be forgiven. Works are not required. Just belief in Jesus as Lord and Savior.
Sounds a bit judgmental.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:19 pm to Canon951
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. I used to be Catholic and praise God he revealed his son to me and led me out of that nonsense.
Really. You never heard the name Jesus all those years you were a Catholic?
You never once heard the Creed spoken at every mass?
You never noticed the readings from the bible four times during mass?
Two from the Old Testament and two from the new testament?
Be honest.
You finally reached a point in your life where you were ready to actually listen to Christ and it happened to be a prot who evangelized you.
I get it.
Prots are Good Christians. Many are far better than millions of nominal Catholics.
But stop blaming the Catholic Church for your unbelieving youth.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:24 pm to Guntoter1
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You Prots are so inconsistent and illogical.
You tell some random pagan on the street all you have to do is recite the salvation prayer and you will be eternally saved.
But for Catholics who publicly affirm the exact same thing countless times during our faith journey, you claim we are famed to hell.
I thought saying the faith prayer was enough?
Well please explain.
Saying a prayer doesn't save anyone. Like I've said before there are protestant denoms that are wrong too. It's belief plus nothing. You can pray all you want after that. If you add anything to what he did for you and believe that you have to also do works or sacraments or penance and whatever else then you do not believe the gospel. The gospel is the good news that Jesus died and rose again to save sinners who are incapable of saving themselves. That's it. A child can believe that. But Satan is subtle. He slips these other things in and they seem godly but in fact are a false doctrine. Works have their place but they do not save and do not add to what Jesus did. It is finished and he meant it when he said it.
I don't know what you believe friend, but your church doesn't teach the truth. Catholic apologists get so caught up in trying to trace their church back to the first century instead of just focusing on Christ and trusting him alone. That is all that matters.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:27 pm to Canon951
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I don't know what you believe friend,
Bingo!!
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:32 pm to Canon951
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Saying a prayer doesn't save anyone.
So which church should I attend?
Which Protestant belief system is the correct one?
Why should I believe you? Who are you?
There are thousands of different denominations.
Jesus said take your disputes to the church.
Which one?
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:38 pm to Canon951
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It's belief plus nothing
Well I’m good then.
I believe Jesus died for my sins.
I believe there is no other name by which I can be saved.
I believe no one comes to the father except through Jesus Christ.
But wait … I learned all this from the Catholic Church?????
And so did you.
This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:38 pm to Guntoter1
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So which church should I attend?
Which Protestant belief system is the correct one?
Why should I believe you? Who are you?
There are thousands of different denominations.
Jesus said take your disputes to the church.
Which one?
I'm not here promoting any denomination. I'm promoting the Jesus of the bible. That is where my faith lies. Not in some manmade institution because they are all in some form or another wrong in some area. In the protestant ranks you have the false doctrine of calvinism.
Early churches were just a handful of believers meeting in each other's homes. You don't have to have a big huge building with a worldwide presence. The church is made up of all of the believers who have placed their trust in Jesus for what he did for us.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:42 pm to RoyalWe
quote:I read it, too.
I didn't read it that way. He's just saying Jesus already did all of the work for your sins to be forgiven. Works are not required. Just belief in Jesus as Lord and Savior.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:42 pm to Diamondawg
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Sounds a bit judgmental.
which part?
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:46 pm to Canon951
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I'm not here promoting any denomination. I'm promoting the Jesus of the bible. That is where my faith lies. Not in some manmade institution because they are all in some form or another wrong in some area. In the protestant ranks you have the false doctrine of calvinism. Early churches were just a handful of believers meeting in each other's homes. You don't have to have a big huge building with a worldwide presence. The church is made up of all of the believers who have placed their trust in Jesus for what he did for us.
“And how can they hear if there is no one to preach, and how can they preach if no one is sent.”
Also the Church is NOT a man made institution.
“On this rock I build my church.”
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:49 pm to crotiger0307
quote:Interestingly, when the church fathers writings are surveyed about how they interpret Mathew 16:18-19, Peter was the rock 17 times. 16 times it was Jesus, 8 times it was all the Apostles together, and 44 times it was peters confession that Jesus was God that was the rock. In other words, 80% of the time it was not the Catholic position.
Jesus was pretty clear in stating that Peter was the rock upon whom the Church was founded, not “the first rock of many more to come”.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:50 pm to Guntoter1
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“And how can they hear if there is no one to preach, and how can they preach if no one is sent.”
Also the Church is NOT a man made institution.
“On this rock I build my church.
I should clarify denominations are manmade. Also, you don't have to have a title or degree to preach or teach. God has given us his word. That is our guide.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:52 pm to Canon951
I understand your belief system . It is very popular.
Just me and Jesus.
And I would never say you are damned.
We are all fallen. Even you.
So tell me again why I should listen to you.
I listen to Jesus. And my interpretation of John 6 is literal.
And my interpretation of the rock is the papacy.
Why are you correct but Thomas Aquinus is wrong.
Just me and Jesus.
And I would never say you are damned.
We are all fallen. Even you.
So tell me again why I should listen to you.
I listen to Jesus. And my interpretation of John 6 is literal.
And my interpretation of the rock is the papacy.
Why are you correct but Thomas Aquinus is wrong.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:55 pm to Canon951
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Also, you don't have to have a title or degree to preach or teach. God has given us his word. That is our guide.
Saint Paul disagrees with you.
“If anyone should preach a Gospel different from the one WE preached, let him be accursed.”
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:59 pm to Guntoter1
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And my interpretation of the rock is the papacy.
Why does this matter so much to you? This is my problem with the Catholic system. It is so tied up in trying to prove they have some sort of direct link to God where others don't.
Let's suppose the rock is Peter and let's suppose Peter was the first pope or whatever. What does that prove? The catholic church has changed and added all sorts of doctrines over the centuries that are not taught in scripture, so even if all of that is true would you agree that things have been added that weren't there in the beginning? And if these things have been added then would you be correct in questioning them? Or do you believe that if a pope says it then that makes it official? This is where I can't understand.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:59 pm to crotiger0307
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Who then are you to judge your neighbor?
I am not judging anything. All I did is state a fact.
The Pope is the vicar of Christ on earth. That is a bit different from a mere monarch. Anyone who denies that is not Catholic.
Posted on 4/18/26 at 4:00 pm to Canon951
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should clarify denominations are manmade. Also, you don't have to have a title or degree to preach or teach. God has given us his word. That is our guide.
I can see you have not read the acts of the apostles. And if you have read it, you did not understand it.
Paul says,
“And I went to Peter to (to get approval) so that my teaching would not be in vain.”
Yep even saint Paul bent the knee to Peter. But not you.
Pride
Posted on 4/18/26 at 4:02 pm to Guntoter1
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Saint Paul disagrees with you.
“If anyone should preach a Gospel different from the one WE preached, let him be accursed.”
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Where did I say teach something they did not teach? I didn't. All I'm saying is you don't have to have a title to teach God's word.
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