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re: As a Catholic, I view the pope the same as I do the English monarch

Posted on 4/18/26 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by METAL
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 12:07 pm to
This might be the dumbest Protestant take I’ve ever read.
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 12:25 pm to
During the first 500 years there were several occasions when the Catholic Church had disputes on beliefs and practices.
When they exhausted all efforts to reach consensus but could not, they would turn to the Bishop of Rome for the tie breaker.
This is historical fact, well documented and understood by any halfway serious historian throughout modern history.
The church, from the beginning, (Acts of the Apostles) always understoood Peter to be the first among equals and tradition and historical documentation prove this fact.
Notice I used the Term Catholic Church to describe the early Church (there were no Protestants).

The earliest recorded use of the phrase “Catholic Church” comes from Ignatius of Antioch, a Christian bishop and martyr of the early 2nd century.

First known use

* Approximate year: AD 107–110
* Source: His letter called Epistle to the Smyrnaeans
* Quote:
Posted by Tigers0918
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 12:34 pm to
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Little more than a ceremonial position


That is a long way of saying you aren't really Catholic.
Posted by crotiger0307
Utah
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 12:41 pm to
You’re right, I faked my way through all the sacraments, starting as an infant. I was a conniving lil mf.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 12:44 pm to
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Jesus was pretty clear in stating that Peter was the rock upon whom the Church was founded, not “the first rock of many more to come”.


Jesus did not mean that Peter was the rock/cornerstone...he was referring to himself. Christ is the cornerstone of the foundation of God's church not Peter.

Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone;

Matthew 16:17 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Matthew 16:18 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona; for flesh and blood hath not revealed this unto thee, but my Father who is in heaven.
Matthew 16:19 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 12:47 pm to
So if the Catholic church is really the one true church, how come they had widespread and long term pedophilia and rape being perpetrated and hidden. Protecting child rapist from discovery and justice is inexcusable. Has the house of God become a pit of vipers?

God forbid!

And bite your tongue if you are going to justify it.

Shame!

True Christianity is not of this earth but it is the collection of those that believe in Jesus.

No man decides who is part of it and who is not.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 12:49 pm to
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The earliest recorded use of the phrase “Catholic Church” comes from Ignatius of Antioch, a Christian bishop and martyr of the early 2nd century.


“Catholic Church" is not in the bible nor is pope or cardinal...it was a manufactured pseudo-religion that did not teach the precepts of what Christ taught what his church was.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16566 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 12:52 pm to
So what the Pope disagreed with Trump.

Y'all will be ok.
Posted by Tigers0918
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 12:52 pm to
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You’re right, I faked my way through all the sacraments, starting as an infant. I was a conniving lil mf.


Hate to tell you but it takes more than going through the motions. If you don't actually believe in the religion, then you aren't an actual Catholic. Maybe go try other religions, lol
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6077 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 12:52 pm to
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So if the Catholic church is really the one true church, how come they had widespread and long term pedophilia and rape being perpetrated and hidden.


Nothing can justify this… with that said… name a religious sect that this doesn’t apply to…
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15294 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 12:53 pm to
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You’re right, I faked my way through all the sacraments, starting as an infant. I was a conniving lil mf.


Sacraments (at this point in your life, the Eucharist) are not beneficial if you are taking them when not in communion with the Church.



Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1757 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 12:54 pm to
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So if the Catholic church is really the one true church, how come they had widespread and long term pedophilia and rape being perpetrated and hidden. Protecting child rapist from discovery and justice is inexcusable. Has the house of God become a pit of vipers?


For the same reason the Jewish faith was the one true religion until the arrival of the Christ.
The presence of evil men does not invalidate the Jewish faith and it does not invalidate the Catholic Church.
To quote Jesus, “Do what they say but do not do what they do.”
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6077 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 1:02 pm to
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Sacraments (at this point in your life, the Eucharist) are not beneficial if you are taking them when not in communion with the Church


This isn’t true… I’m not a Catholic… but I’ve heard this argument disputed before
Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
6399 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 1:04 pm to
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Then in Matthew 16, Jesus gives Peter the keys and changes his name to Rock. That’s not random language, it’s clearly tying Peter to that same kind of authority


You are misinterpreting what Jesus was saying.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15294 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 1:05 pm to
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This isn’t true… I’m not a Catholic… but I’ve heard this argument disputed before


Taking communion in mortal sin in Catholicism is sacrilege as a Catholic.

Mortal sin requires intent, full knowledge and grave matter.



This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1757 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 1:05 pm to
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This isn’t true… I’m not a Catholic… but I’ve heard this argument disputed before


FWIW
Saint Paul Quote: “ He who eats and drinks without discerning the body and blood, eats and drinks condemnation upon himself.”
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16421 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Nothing can justify this… with that said… name a religious sect that this doesn’t apply to…


Not "what about" the ONE TRUE church.

Y'all are the only ones going to heaven!

Blasphemy

The things you were told to do you don't, and the things you were told not to do - that's what you do.

I'm not a basher of anyone's faith in Christ, but this "we are the only holy church" is bullshite!
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16421 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 1:13 pm to
No, he said beware of their doctrine. Matt 16:12

If you're going to quote scripture, you should read it first.
Posted by Canon951
Member since May 2020
615 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 1:14 pm to
I have posted this before but some of you need to repent and believe on Jesus and him alone for your eternal salvation. Throw away your religious works and the things you think make your right before God. Let me be clear...Works based religions of any label traps people in religious bondage. Rather than repent and believe God's word, they defend the doctrine of demons that blinds people from the light of God's glorious gospel which is Jesus Christ and him alone for our salvation. That would apply to Catholics or Protestants or Orthodox or whoever that add anything to God's plan to save mankind through faith in his Son.

If you are working your way to heaven, or believe your involvement in some particular denomination makes you right with God, then you need to repent today and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for everlasting life and the forgiveness of sins. He died for us all and he only wants you to believe he did that for you and trust him alone.

Acts 13:38 Let it be known to you therefore, brothers, that through this man forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you, 39 and by him everyone who believes is freed from everything from which you could not be freed by the law of Moses.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6077 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 1:19 pm to
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The things you were told to do you don't, and the things you were told not to do - that's what you do.

I'm not a basher of anyone's faith in Christ, but this "we are the only holy church" is bullshite!


You misinterpreted the context of my question???… I ain’t justifying or making excuses for Catholics… I’m not Catholic

The question was “what other religious sect that doesn’t apply to?
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